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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 29 Icon_minitimeFri 1 Feb - 23:03

Nice pics, Petra! Smile (At least smth nice from that awful trial)
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 29 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb - 2:15

Some news about Manuela:

Ass. prof. Petrov: The state of Manuela gets slowly well

-Note from me: BMA is the hospital in Sofia Manuela is in at the moment!)

http://topsport.ibox.bg/news/id_550637868 (in Bulgarian)

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Translation by google:
"Prof. Petrov: The state of Manuela slowly improves
From Topsport.bg

Whatever is up to us was made, said chief of the ER at VMA
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Manuela Gorsova state of which is in a coma after an accident caused by twice world champion Maxim Staviski near Ropotamo, is slowly improving. That said to Channel 1, "Associate Professor Nikolai Petrov, head of the ER at the Military Academy.

Dr Petrov added that it is encouraged after one recent survey Manuela is squeezed his hand, which it asked.

"Whatever is up to us was made. It can be achieved much under rehabilitation. And there are quite developed rehabilitation programs in Israel but things are much more developed and there will certainly achieve much more serious results," commented Professor Petrov."


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I don't have any more information right now Petra.I will when i find out.I just want to say few things.This article is a little bit emotional and the way is writen is akward i agree and most of reasons for me if not wrong are at least unappropriated.I admire Albena and Max i am willing to help but i would do this for Manuela.I am positive that Max will find a way not only to cover the amount he was sentenced to but beyond this.As the author said the girl will need a lot of money for her rehabilitation in Israel .Many people will stand by this idea but nooo the way he said it was a pure overreaction and can be understand wrong and instead of giving Max respect will bring more negativity .IJMHO. heart2 loveall
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 29 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb - 6:51

Thank you, and I will watch the board for information.

When things quieten down, the good deeds will be forthcoming. There are too many emotions raging now, which is just human nature after such a tragedy. I know we have caring feelings for all involved.
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Viktoria is right that the paper looks a bit akward, so I decided to do some more research. There have been other cases when newspapers collect money for a sick child and they have all the information Petra wrote about. Exept for a couple of things.
1. The bank address, but it can be found in the web some times. Sometimes US banks take just the city whe the branch of the bank is.
2. Sometimes the full address of the beneficiary is not needed, just the city and the zip code.
3. Bulgarian bank accounts have some additional letters and number, so the SWIFT or BIC are not needed anymore. It is a new thing. From the past year or so. The numbers of all bank accounts got changed in this way during 2006, when Bulgaria was preparing to join the EU.

So, but the correct name of the account holder is a must, or at least a first and a family name. So I decided that I need more research for this, beacuse US banks check things that petra mentioned.
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Help girls!
http://anketa.focus-news.net/sport.php?vote=420
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hrisi_plamenova wrote:
Help girls!
http://anketa.focus-news.net/sport.php?vote=420
this link might not open but this one is for the same page http://anketa.focus-news.net/sport.php
p.s. for the ones that don't understand bulgarian - vote for the second thing. Smile
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OK, girls! bounce
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I think you should know what you vote for, girls Wink ...

Translation of the vote:
"Is the enforceable judgment on Maxim Стависки righteous?
1) Yes , he needs not to enter in the prison.
2) Yea , because he has not killed human intentionally.
3) No, he must enter in the prison.
4) No , for he be guilty.
5) It does not interest me
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 29 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb - 22:05

Here you find an account number for Euros, too, and not only for BGL and USD:

http://topsport.ibox.bg/comment/id_1402215521

Откритите сметки в Уникредит Булбанк:
BGL - BG30 UNCR 7000 1501 6639 99
USD - BG51 UNCR 7000 1501 6640 09
ЕUR - BG63 UNCR 7000 1501 6640 84

But we need more information...
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Girls, one question came to my mind this afternoon. Now, that Max is on probation, is he allowed to leave Bulgaria to work / skate in other countries? And what will be with his visa for other countries, the USA for example? Will they let him in? Or will there be difficulties to be given a visa? And without working / skating in other countries he can´t earn money ...

Does anyone know?? Question Question
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Father of Manuela: Manuela will forgive Maxim

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_396292134

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"Father: Manuelka will forgive Maxim
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I have no information that the condition of my daughter has improved, but when you have this information and it is a doctor from the Military Academy, I am happy to hear it.
That said Krassimir Gorsov father injured in the crash near Ropotamo Manuela before news.bg on the opinion of Professor Nikolai Petrov, that the situation of the girl has improved.

He noted that currently travel to the city yesterday and has not visited his daughter to be able to say with certainty whether Manuela recovering at a rapid pace.

Quite often doctors say she is restored, but the next day, her condition is still bad.
So I can be clear that any lasting improvement, added Gorsov.

When it all happens very slowly, so that no time can not be sure, he said, adding he knows from his wife that morning is Manuela took up 39 º temperature.

Krassimir Gorsov indicated that has yet to consider further acts - whether to appeal the decision of the Bourgas court or bring a civil action to Staviski for more than 80 awarded thousands amount.

This decision can be taken individually, could only act after his wife's consent, but agreed when they meet in the hospital room where our daughter, we have no desire to discuss civil claims, said Gorsov.

However, maybe in the next days I will discuss what will take regarding the verdict, "he added.

This man has a heart, there are choveshtina, but I will not forgive. Never.
The one who should just Manuelka, and she will do it
K. Gorsov
Gorsov adding however that he sees great sense about energy dispersive its courts.
My daughter needs me, you should put all forces and energy to be with her, "he added.

Krassimir Gorsov announced that he had spoken with Maxim Staviski after the delivery of the verdict of world champion.

Search me, we talked, but did not wish to comment on our talks, said Gorsov.
We talked mostly about Manuela.
I repeatedly say that I am open to talk with him, "he added.

This man has a heart, there are choveshtina, but I will not forgive. Never.
The one who should just Manuelka, and she will do it, said Gorsov.
It is so good that he forgave and the worst finish father of the girl.

On the occasion of Prof. Petrov comments that prisadenata amount Staviski must give to the treatment of the girl is insufficient Gorsov said it is still early to make specific accounts how will it cost medical care for Manuela.

The team from Israel has not yet come, we expect it in the next 10 days.
Whereas you might need to Manuela undergoing several times intervention in Israel and also her trip there, Gorsov assume that the money will likely prove insufficient.

Asked to comment on how open from development 21 donation bank account to collect funds for treatment of his daughter, father of Manuela said that he personally approve all ways that could help his daughter.

Gorsov clear that decisions on the collection of funds for Manuela taken by Peter Hristov (a businessman close to the family who present pay for treatment bel.red.), Which in the beginning was against such initiatives, but is now more prone to them.
The father of another girl underlined the enormous contribution which has Hrisov his family at this difficult time."


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Did you notice this:

The account in US dollars from here
http://topsport.ibox.bg/comment/id_1033620893

is
USD - BG51 UNCR 7000 6640 09

And from here http://topsport.ibox.bg/comment/id_1402215521
is
USD - BG51 UNCR 7000 1501 6640 09

Well, they have corrected the mistake, but they should have mentioned this, appologize, give more info and really double check it.
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The 80 thousand-levs of Мануела do not suffice for treatment of 1 month in Israel as well scratch

I´ve only some questions to this, and please, don´t understand me wrong!!! Why has it to be Israel? Isn´t the treatment in Bulgaria good enough? Is the treatment in Bulgaria really so bad? And what is with all the other coma victims in Bulgaria? Will they now be send to Israel, too, because the treatment there is so good?? And if the 80.000 Leva are only enough for one month treatment in Israel, how long do they intend to treat Manuela there? And for how many months Max shall pay?? He hasn´t even enough money to pay what he was sentenced for, and he´s not David Beckham...
Sorry, but ... scratch
I mean I really hope that the best will be done for Manuela and that she will recover soon, but I have more and more doubts in the equality (is this the right word?) of people when I read headlines like this. Where will things like this lead to? I mean, the other coma victims in Bulgaria, they can´t ask for / think about treatment in Israel...
I only hope there will be no civil claim and no appeal...

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_1569968615

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Translation by google:
"80-they hil.lv. Manuela not enough for 1 month and treatment in Israel
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State of Manuela Gorsova slowly improves, said, cited by Topsport.bg, Associate Professor Nikolai Petrov, head of the ER at the Military Academy.
It is recalled 18-year-old girl seriously hurt in the crash caused by Maxim Staviski in the summer and since then was in a coma.

Dr Petrov added that it is encouraged after one recent survey Manuela is squeezed his hand and was laughing for which it is asked.

Whatever is up to us is made explicit is the specialist.

In his words, you can achieve much by way of rehabilitation.

And there are quite developed rehabilitation programs in Israel but things are much more developed and there will certainly achieve much more serious results, "commented another reader Petrov.

Concerning the provisions of the court allowance, which must pay Staviski of Manuela - 80 thousand euro, Prof. Petrov was clear that this money will not reach for one month in the Israeli hospital.

It is not yet clear whether the father of Manuela, Krasimir Gorsov who represent it in court, to take civil action against Staviski greater amount.

It is recalled, according to preliminary information, month treatment in Israeli hospital cost between 50 and 80 thousand dollars."


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I voted some minutes ago at the vote link Iv4eto_k and Hrisi posted above. And that´s the result:

"Справедлива ли е условната присъда на Максим Стависки? = Is the enforceable judgement on Maxim Staviski righteous?
1) Да, той не трябва да влиза в затвора 220 (12.56%) = Yes, he needs not to enter in the prison.
2) Да, защото не е убил човек умишлено 493 (28.14%) = Yes, because he has not killed human intentionally.
3) Не, той трябва да влезе в затвора 884 (50.46%) = No, he must enter in the prison.
4) Не, защото не е виновен 49 (2.8%) = No, for he is guilty.
5) Не ме интересува 106 (6.05%) = It does not interest me.
Общо гласували: 1752
Вашият глас бе отчетен. "

Is this really what Bulgarian public thinks? That he has to enter in prison? More than 50% of Bulgarians have voted for that!!! affraid affraid

I think it´s really time for correcting this... Wink

Edit: You remember the last vote we "corrected" Laughing ? You remember: Closing the internet browser completely for , lets say, 10 seconds, and you can immediately vote again!!! At least I can! I tried here too!!! It works again Laughing Laughing Laughing !!!


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So many against Max...scratch saaad
Sometimes it amazes me how evil people can be... nooo
Poor Max and Albena. They bore more than enough already...but there is still not less to bear... saaad
Stand tall, Albie and Max! heart2 heart2
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scratch It looks a little bit better now, but it´s still far away from being perfect. saaad

"Справедлива ли е условната присъда на Максим Стависки? =Is the enforceable judgement on Maxim Staviski righteous?
1) Да, той не трябва да влиза в затвора 226 (11.4%) = Yes, he needs not to enter in prison.
2) Да, защото не е убил човек умишлено 680 (34.31%) = Yes, because he has not killed human intentionally.
3) Не, той трябва да влезе в затвора 915 (46.17%) = No, he must enter in the prison.
4) Не, защото не е виновен 51 (2.57%) = No, for he is guilty.
5) Не ме интересува 110 (5.55%) = It does not interest me.
Общо гласували: 1982
Вашият глас бе отчетен. "

But at least the two "Yes" together are closer to the two "No"... But as a whole it´s still sad shocked saaad ...

Hold on, Max! Not everyone has the same opinion as the persons who voted for "No"!! There are at least some who voted for "Yes", and on those you can count!!! Hold on!!
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vote vote vote people lol! just a little bit. remember - the second choise
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I can't vote scratch I open only the page with the results, not the poll scratch
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Vania, use this link and not the link Hrisi gave us!!

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sunny The results are changing....step by step lol!
Keep on voting Erm..work:) ...
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Yeah sunny ! The opposition is only 99 points ahead now!! It should be possible to pass them!!!
Erm..work:) Erm..work:) Erm..work:)
But: Don´t underestimate the opposition!!! They make approximately between 10 and 20 valid / counted points per hour!!!

That are the actual results:

"Справедлива ли е условната присъда на Максим Стависки? = Is the enforceable judgement on Maxim staviski righteous?
1) Да, той не трябва да влиза в затвора 250 (10.56%) = Yes, he needs not to enter in prison.
2) Да, защото не е убил човек умишлено 922 (38.95%) =Yes, because he has not killed human intentionally.
3) Не, той трябва да влезе в затвора 1021 (43.13%) = No, he must enter in the prison.
4) Не, защото не е виновен 58 (2.45%) = No, for he is guilty.
5) Не ме интересува 116 (4.9%) = It does not interest me.
Общо гласували: 2367
Вашият глас бе отчетен.
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come on..a little bit more. vote people sunny
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They raise money for Manuela

http://standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2008-02-03&article=220662 (in Bulgarian)

---> There seems to be another account now for Manuela where they collect money...

I try to make the transcription now: (If I have transcribt something incorrect, please correct me! Translation of this without guarantee!))
Account Manuela Krasimirova Gorsova
Pireos Bank
klon Witoscha (??? Bulgarian "klon" = English "branch"??????) Edit: A_Hot_Nerd says it´s spelled "Vitosha"!
BG 71PIR80504601716534 - BGN
BG 12PIB80504601716529 - EU

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"Collect money for Manuela

He began a campaign to support the treatment of Manuela Gorsova, which is in a coma after challenge from Maxim Staviski crash near Ropotamo last August. Money for the treatment of 18-year-old girl may be submitted in the following accounts:
Manuela account
Krasimirova Gorsova, Piraeus Bank,
Vitosha branch --
BG 71PIR80504601716534 - BGN;
BG 12PIB80504601716529 - EU
Until now, for the treatment of the girl have spent more than 60 000 leva restoration of Manuela in the hospital abroad will cost between 1500 and 3000 dollars per day and can flow a year, said businessman Peter Christopher, who has the cost of treatment of Manuela to moment. Darik radio before he explained that her parents have no income and no family able to pay for treatment.
EU Commissioner Meglena Kuneva added that at least you can do Staviski in the case is to help the family. On January 30 Maxim received 2.5 years conditional on the crash in which Petar Petrov died, and Manuela was seriously injured. Magistrates rejected civil claims and prisadiha significantly lower amounts.
Parents of killed Petar Petrov will receive thousands of 90 euro plus interest and compensation for U.S. $ 4815 in property damage. Staviski must pay and 80 BGN for Manuel. The father of the girl submitted a claim for 2 million but was rejected."


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Petra,

you are right, "klon" means branch. The addres should be in the web.
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