Maxim in driving accident

We passed !
With 1 point !

"Справедлива ли е условната присъда на Максим Стависки? = Is the enforceable judgement on Maxim Staviski righteous?
1) Да, той не трябва да влиза в затвора 269 (10.11%) = Yes, he needs not to enter in prison.
2) Да, защото не е убил човек умишлено 1104 (41.5%) = Yes, because he has not killed human intentionally.
3) Не, той трябва да влезе в затвора 1103 (41.47%) = No, he must enter in the prison.
4) Не, защото не е виновен 61 (2.29%) = No, for he is guilty.
5) Не ме интересува 123 (4.62%) = It does not interest me.
Общо гласували: 2660
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Petra,
goog for us. #4 means "No, because he is not guilty".

a_Hot_Nerd wrote:

Petra,
goog for us. #4 means "No, because he is not guilty".

I rechecked, and of course you´re right! But: It does not make sense to me...

The question is: "Is the enforceable judgement on Maxim Staviski righteous?" Then: "No, because he is not guilty" somehow makes no sense...
"No, because he´s guilty" and "Yes, because he is not guilty" would make sense to me...

But however ... number two is in front (or at least it was in front this morning... ), and that´s the most important...

We lost some points, therefore:

I don´t know if we have this one ... There were so many during the last days ...

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_82457454

Edit:
Translation by google:
"The father of Manuela: I accept the decision of the court
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I accept the decision.

It said the father injured in the crash near Ropotamo Manuela Krassimir Gorsov the air of BTV.

Judges have decided that it is their decision, "he added. Gorsov added that accepts the decision of the magistrates, requesting U.S. $ 2 million to treat Manuela was rejected as "unrealistic high.

I hand Maxim didn 't filed, and no to an ever, said Gorsov. The dialogue between us as it is conducted only through the media, added the father of Manueala.

He added that it is ready to meet Maxim Staviski if he is willing to discuss further treatment of Manuela in Israel."

One question: Is it right that the mother of Peter Petrov said during a TV show that she wished Maxim one day has a child himself and then would loose it the same way she has lost her son Peter???
This sounds really cruel to me!! Even if she lost her own child this way, how can she say so???

Is it true she really said so???

Thanks to Bulgarian forum!

Quote from the translation: "We appeal with security, the demanders warned."

Quote from the translation: "Staviski and Denkova refuse to reveal what their future plans are and whether at all they will continue competing at the moment. Everything hinged on that whether the (...) party will appeal the decision of the court."

Edit:
You can find the Bulgarian version here:
http://www.armleg.com/forum4e/viewtopic.php?t=95&start=2280&mforum=forum4e (--> topic: Presa)

This seems to be the final result of the poll. It seems that voting is not possible any more...

We made a good job , girls, and "lost " only with two points!

"Справедлива ли е условната присъда на Максим Стависки? = Is the enforceable judgement on Maxim Staviski righteous?
1) Да, той не трябва да влиза в затвора 23 (10.36%)
2) Да, защото не е убил човек умишлено 1291 (41.4%) = Yes, because he has not killed human intentionally.
3) Не, той трябва да влезе в затвора 1293 (41.47%) = No, he must enter in the prison.
4) Не, защото не е виновен 67 (2.15%)
5) Не ме интересува 144 (4.62%)
Общо гласували: 3118 "

We cannot be quiet totally...

Ufffff!!!!!

One thing I'm interested in is WHY do they keep calling Maxim "the Russian"? It's like he wasn't Russian when he won the titles for Bulgaria - oh, he was very bulgarian then, and now he turns into a "dirty Russian".

cute_n_gorgeous wrote:

One thing I'm interested in is WHY do they keep calling Maxim "the Russian"? It's like he wasn't Russian when he won the titles for Bulgaria - oh, he was very bulgarian then, and now he turns into a "dirty Russian".

I know what you mean it's very sad Max always tells he feel Bulgarian, but now these evil journalists... $%?#@!@!*

Vania wrote:

cute_n_gorgeous wrote:

One thing I'm interested in is WHY do they keep calling Maxim "the Russian"? It's like he wasn't Russian when he won the titles for Bulgaria - oh, he was very bulgarian then, and now he turns into a "dirty Russian".

I know what you mean it's very sad Max always tells he feel Bulgarian, but now these evil journalists... $%?#@!@!*

It makes me surprised how envious and mean people may be

cute_n_gorgeous wrote:

Vania wrote:

cute_n_gorgeous wrote:

One thing I'm interested in is WHY do they keep calling Maxim "the Russian"? It's like he wasn't Russian when he won the titles for Bulgaria - oh, he was very bulgarian then, and now he turns into a "dirty Russian".

I know what you mean it's very sad Max always tells he feel Bulgarian, but now these evil journalists... $%?#@!@!*

It makes me surprised how envious and mean people may be

If this would be the only meanness of journalists, believe me, I would be glad! But there are so many many other vulgarities, not only by journalists, but by people from TV media or by persons writing comments to news articles... The list is nearly endless... And I think we have published here only a small part of it. It´s too sad !

Besides: It´s easy to support someone who has success, but supporting someone who is down to the bottom, that´s hard work! And many of the journalists have chosen the easy way...

Sometimes I think it´s the best not to take notice / pay attention of persons who say such things! It´s useless! They will never learn better!!!

According to this Bulgarian article the deadline for the appeal is the 15. January 2008, not the 14. January! If I understand it right there is no appeal until now!

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_2003620355

Petra wrote:

According to this Bulgarian article the deadline for the appeal is the 15. January 2008, not the 14. January! If I understand it right there is no appeal until now!

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_2003620355

10 more days, let's keep our fingers crossed!

cute_n_gorgeous:

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10 more days, let's keep our fingers crossed!

We hope for the best!

Oh noooooo! ... There will be an appeal!!!! It will start again !

Prosecutor will protest against suspended sentence of Maxim Staviski

http://focus-fen.net/?id=n133090 (in English)


If I understand this Bulgarian article right, the prosecutor really will appeal Maxim´s probation!!! It really seems he wants him to go to prison...

Quote from the translation: "The propsecutor will protest before the court of appeal... According to the prosecutor most trials from the similar character in the courts in the country have been concluding to effective time."

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_614116421 (in Bulgarian)

Edit:
Translation by google:
"The prosecutor claimed a conditional sentence of Staviski
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Prosecutor Angel Georgiev will be contested on probation Maxim Staviski.

It will be contested before the appellate court decision of the Bourgas Regional Court in respect of probation, forward burgasinfo.

According to the Prosecutor most cases of a similar nature in the courts in the country are completed with an effective verdict.

The rest of the reprehensible decision not to protest.

"Since the court to comply with my desire verdict is in a period of 2 years and 6 months," said prosecutor Georgiev.

For its part lawyer Krasimir Gorsov Hristo Hristov, in court representing the interests of victims of the crash Manuela Gorsova says not yet decided whether it will appeal the verdict of the Burgas District Court.

In his words, a decision that will be a meeting at the end of the week.

On January 30 Burgas District Court during the abbreviated proceedings after Staviski admitted guilty condemned Figure Skating World Champions of 2 years and a half terms with 5 years probation and revocation of his license for pravoupravlenie for 3 years.

Parents of killed Petar Petrov will receive 90 000 leva kravnina plus interest and U.S. $ 4 815 compensation for damage to property. M

aksim Staviski will have to pay 80 000 leva and compensation for moral damages of Manuela Gorsova."

Oh, no

Somehow I only feel like ...

Some more here:

They challenge the judgement on Staviski

Quote from translation: "Upon the words of the prosecutor Georgiev his protest is have consequences, (...) for appealed trials are so more have finished out with effective sentences."

http://www.dnes.bg/article.php?id=47207 (in Bulgarian)

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Translation by google:
"Appeal of verdict Staviski
06.02.2008 16:44 21
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Prosecution will appeal against the suspended sentence of Maxim Staviski.

Prosecutor Angel Georgiev announced that before the Appellate Court will contested decision of Burgas district court, which condemned the World Champion Figure Skating, 2 and a half years and conditional withdrawal of his testimony pravoupravlenie for 3 years.

Magistrates condemning him to pay more and 170 kravnina thousands of relatives of the fallen boy and injured Manuela Gorsova.

In the words of prosecutor Georgiev protest will have an effect because most cases appealed then ending with an effective verdict.

Lawyer Manuela Gorsova but still has not decided whether it will appeal the verdict.

Dnes.bg recalls that on January 30 Bourgas Regional Court sentenced conditionally Staviski of the crash, which causes 5 August 2007

Then figuristat in intoxication causes crash near Burgas and cause the death of Petar Petrov, Manuela Gorsova else was seriously injured."


Another one, nearly the same is said, except this:
Quote from the translation: "... the prosecutor will bring protest against the enforceable judgement. This will happen clear to the 15 day term in which the countries have the right to appeal or to fulminate..."
http://novini.dir.bg/2008/02/06/news2633923.html

Oh my God... Albie, Max, HOLD ON!!!

I only hope this appeal will be refused! I remember that media once said (before Max was judged at 30. January 2008) that more than 60 % of the cases comparable with the accident of Max in Bourgas region end up with effective jail sentence.
Hrisi, the Bulgarian law student, told us, that this is not true...

I´m shocked by the articles ... but I too have hope that Hrisi is right again ... and this would mean that the reason the prosecutor gave for his appeal is not correct ... and this might mean the appeal might be refused ...
I hope!!!

But it can be found in nearly every Bulgarian internet paper at the moment ...

A new article from today about Manuela:

The remedy in Israel is a huge chance for Manuela

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_609157339 (in Bulgarian)

Edit:
Translation by google:
"Treatment in Israel - a huge chance for Manuela
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The condition of victims of the crash by Maxim Staviski, Manuela, was stable but serious, which sources from the Military Medical Academy.
In their hospital has done everything, but improvement in our country can hardly be expected.

This means according to the specialists that treatment in Israel would need to be able to rely on substantial positive change in Manuel.

From his hospital remembered a similar case with severe injured in a car accident boy who has returned from treatment in Israeli hospital cure and in good condition.

In Israel such clinics are organized by the American model, which combined with the rich experience of Israeli doctors regularly lekuvashti patients with severe injuries caused many attacks, gives very good results in treatment.

Today
The prosecutor claimed a conditional sentence of Maxim
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Furthermore, spetsialistie specify where young people the chance to restore normal brain activity is very high.

It is recalled several days of Israel is expected to arrive team to examine the state of Manuela and recommend the most appropriate clinic for her.

According to preliminary information the treatment in Israel would cost between 50 and 80 thousand dollars a month.

Regarding the treatment of Manuela in the Military Medical Academy, the hospital sources noted that after the clinical path as the practice of hospital treatment for the hospital.

It is recalled in connection to the tragic incident near Pomorie, who died when 24-year-old Peter and Manuela already the sixth month in a coma, the "Development 21 and Web Media Group initiated the opening of the donation account to help families of victims.

On the occasion initiative leader of BANU-People's Union Anastasiya Mozer commented that it is good that expressly provided the funds to go to the victims, because sometimes the funds go as intended.

Of course, said Moser, even better would be if this had not happened.

According to its worldwide organizations have against driving a vehicle under the influence of alcohol and this campaign should be strengthened and the role of relevant authorities of our authorities must be strengthened."

Oh nooooo! It starts all over again!

Just hope that this mess will end without real starting... and that Max won't get imprisoned...

Hold on, Max and Albie! Always with you!

Now we know what this prosecutor wants ! It´s unbelievable! I´m in loss of words for this!

Quote from the translation: " ... He ( = Maxim) received (on 30. January) 2,5 years for 5 years experiential term. The prosecutor explained that they have wanted the same judgement, only that Maxim (.?.) effective."

As I understand this, he wants Maxim to go to prison for two and a half years!!! With effective time!!! And with no probation!!!

http://www.standartnews.com/bg/article.php?article=221020

Edit:
Translation by google:
"Appeal suspended sentence of Staviski

Prosecution in Burgas will appeal suspended sentence of Maxim Staviski. He received 2.5 years to 5 years probation. From the prosecution explained that they want the same sentence, only to Maxim izlezhi effectively. Championship last August killed in a car accident 24 years Petar Petrov and severely wounded 18-year Manuela Gorsova, which has been in a coma. He was driving the truck with 1.29 promila alcohol. Staviski must pay parents died young of 90 BGN kravnina plus interest and 80 000 leva Manuela Gorsova."

How come??!!!
It's...it's...i can not find censore words!! Mmm...prosecutor!!!
Sorry but it's just unfaaaair!!

God, please help!!! Again!!!

It´s not only unfair, it´s more than this!!

And here, for all who want to read it in an English paper because they don´t trust their eyes when they read the translation of the Bulgarian version, here´s the English version, from Novinite this time!!

Headline from Novinite: Prosecutor wants Bulgaria´s Staviski in jail

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=90117