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Vania AM bg team
Number of posts : 4637 Age : 46 Residence : Bulgaria Registration date : 2006-03-27
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Tue 23 Sep - 9:02 | |
| Please, can someone repost the article (in Bulgarian) because the link doesn't open for me. Thanks! | |
| | | risha_11 AM forever in love
Number of posts : 541 Age : 32 Residence : Moscow,Russia Registration date : 2007-02-03
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Tue 23 Sep - 15:10 | |
| - Vania wrote:
- Please, can someone repost the article (in Bulgarian) because the link doesn't open for me. Thanks!
Here it is,Vania: Максим преведе 60 бона за ПетърС Албена събират парите от "Ледена приказка", разбиха слуха за раздяла София. Максим Стависки плати остатъка от 60 000 лева от кръвнината за Петър Петров. Преди три дни парите са преведени от адвоката Явор Натов в сметката на родителите на убитото от джипа на шампиона момче. По решение на съда майката и бащата трябва да получат по 90 000 лева за загиналия си син плюс лихвите и по 4815 лева обезщетение за имуществени вреди. Първата част Стависки издължи малко след като получи присъдата си в Бургас. Максим и Албена заедно събрали парите за втората вноска. Двамата приели да участват в шоуто "Ледена Приказка", за да дадат хонорарите на семейството на Петър. Сумата изпратили в края на миналата седмица от Русия в сметката на бащата на Албена, а той ги предал на Натов. Така шампионите разбиха слуховете, че са разделени. Никога не са били толкова задружни както сега, кълнат се и роднините им. Според близки до фигуристите, Албена ще придружи Максим и на делото в сряда. Тогава Висшият касационен съд ще гледа жалбата на Красимир Горсов срещу условната присъда на Стависки от две години и половина. Стависки бе наказан и с 80 хиляди лева на изпадналата в кома след катастрофата Мануела Горсова. Присъствието на шампионите в залата не е задължително. Двамата обаче решили, че е техен морален дълг да отидат. Таня Райнова | |
| | | Vania AM bg team
Number of posts : 4637 Age : 46 Residence : Bulgaria Registration date : 2006-03-27
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Tue 23 Sep - 15:25 | |
| Thank you, Risha Hahaha, they wrote Ice fairytale instead of Ice age It's Standart, though, it's normal to make mistakes | |
| | | viktoria AM close friend
Number of posts : 1255 Age : 42 Residence : LA Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Tue 23 Sep - 19:58 | |
| Thank you Petra and risha - Vania wrote:
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Hahaha, they wrote Ice fairytale instead of Ice age It's Standart, though, it's normal to make mistakes My thought exactly when i saw the sourse and considering that they always twist the facts, this time the article was OK. I had a little time to make the translation but our dear Petra did awesome job with google translator. Just in case here is the translation Maxim transferred 60.000 for Peter He and Albena are gathering the money they earned in "Ice Age" and broke the separation rumors . Maxim Staviski paid the balance of 60 000 BGN for Peter Petrov. Three days ago the money were transferred by his lawyer Yavor Notev to the account of the parents of the boy, killed by the champion's Jeep. According to the court’s decision ,each the mother and the father ,should receive 90 000 leva for their killed son , plus interest and compensation of 4815 leva in property damage. The first part Staviski paid soon after his sentence was pronounced by the court of Bugras. Maxim and Albena were gathering together the money for the second installment. Both accepted to participate in the show "Ice Age" so they could give their earnings to the family of Peter. The amount was sent at the end of the last week from Russia to the account of Albena‘ father who delivered it to Notev. The champions broke down the rumors of their separation. According to relatives close to the figure skaters ,they’ve never been as united as now. Albena will accompany Maxim to his trial in Wednesday ,September 24,2008 . The Supreme Cassation Court will hear the appeal of Krassimir Gorsov about Staviski,s probation of two and a half years. Staviski was sentenced to pay 80 000 BGN to the injured in the crash Manuela Gorsova. The presence of champions in the court room is optional. However, the two (Albena and Maxim) decided that it was their moral duty to go. Tanya Raynova" I wish good luck to Albie and Max. and i hope this nightmare will be over soon. | |
| | | Petra AM akin
Number of posts : 3667 Age : 54 Residence : Germany Registration date : 2007-09-08
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Tue 23 Sep - 20:54 | |
| Quote from the topic "Albena and Maxim in IceAge 3, season 2008/2009: - piemontesina wrote:
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At what time tomorrow can we know the definitive result of the trial?? I think some minutes after it is over it will be published in the internet papers. They always did it this way. But when exactly this will be, I think nobody knows today... I only hope that tomorrow we will have the definite result, and that it is not only a hearing with the result given one or two months later. Maybe you remember that the other two times first was the hearing and the result was given one or two months later... I only pray that we will have the definite result tomorrow and that we don´t have to wait longer! I´m not familiar with Bulgarian law (!), but as far as I understood it from the articles I read and from what I read in Bulgarian forum it is not possible to change the sentence tomorrow! It is only possible to confirm it or to give it back to first instance! So let´s pray that the sentence will be confirmed, that the prosecutors and the relatives of the victims will accept the sentence this time, and that there won´t be another appeal because this would mean another trial at the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg! I want all this to have an end! Tomorrow!!! Edit: - Petra wrote:
- So let´s pray that the sentence will be confirmed, that the prosecutors and the relatives of the victims will accept the sentence this time, and that there won´t be another appeal because this would mean another trial at the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg!
I just found an article from today ( not from "Standart"!) with an interview with Mr. Gorsov, that as a whole is not worth being published here. Only one sentence is important: Gorsov said that his wife Diana said she will pursue Maxim until last resort ... | |
| | | Ivana AM in love
Number of posts : 151 Age : 41 Residence : Slovakia Registration date : 2007-04-26
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Tue 23 Sep - 21:42 | |
| - Petra wrote:
- Petra wrote:
- So let´s pray that the sentence will be confirmed, that the prosecutors and the relatives of the victims will accept the sentence this time, and that there won´t be another appeal because this would mean another trial at the European Court for Human Rights in Strasbourg!
I just found an article from today (not from "Standart"!) with an interview with Mr. Gorsov, that as a whole is not worth being published here. Only one sentence is important: Gorsov said that his wife Diana said she will pursue Maxim until last resort ... Well...they should first check what is European court of human rights for and how it works. Since they can´t sue Maxim there, they can only sue Bulgaria and also the court has no right change the decision of Bulgarian courts. The only think they can get there (if they are succesfull with their claim) is that Bulgaria will pay them financial compensation for the damages caused by the decision of Bulgarian courts, but that´s probably what they really want..... | |
| | | Petra AM akin
Number of posts : 3667 Age : 54 Residence : Germany Registration date : 2007-09-08
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Wed 24 Sep - 14:02 | |
| So, we will have to wait another month until the Supreme Court will tell the sentence... At the moment no exact date is given... http://dnes.dir.bg/2008/09/24/news3405050.html (in Bulgarian) Translation by google:" Staviski again repented, the verdict within a month September 24, 2008 / News.dir.bg The Supreme Court will decide within one month the final sentence of twice world champion Figure Skating Maxim Staviski. This supreme judges announced after its meeting today, Focus forward. On the previous two instances Staviski was sentenced to 2 years and a half imprisonment conditionally. Prosecution sought the annulment of the verdict and return the case for retrial by another judicial panel for granted procedural violation. Relatives of the victims insist on imposing a more severe penalty and increase the amount of damages awarded for moral damages caused. In the courtroom Maxim Staviski said he regrets what happened and understand the consequences of that. He saboleznovaniyata to the families of the victims and said that work on 15 hours a day to pay their obligations to the relatives of the perished Peter Petrov, having already been awarded compensation by pay 80 000 leva Manuela. "I was sad about what happened to this girl, interested in the situation, but unfortunately I can not do a miracle," said Staviski. "I lost a lot. I think if you look at my life before the accident, then, will understand what I lost," he added, and once again said in court that repent of your ways. "I did not even open his mouth today to say something to probation," said later he released information about it is said that hopes of probation. He stressed that while the court did not rule will not make any statements or comments on the verdict. The father of Manuela Gorsova - Krasimir Gorsov said it would not comment before the announcement of the verdict. He however said that he feels guilty for her child because of its dependence on gambling. Gorsov stressed that reportazhite how it plays a slot machine with money collected for the treatment of Manuela, have nothing to do with the case against Staviski if authorities investigating judge will bear blame their forward BTA. The simple figure skater said on that occasion: "I am not someone who can judge someone has any problems and nothing to comment. He however said he does not want this fact to influence the court in making the final verdict against him. On the occasion of the Russian site that showed that Staviski get in the car in Moscow, although there is a prohibition to drive in Bulgaria Staviski said that he is "yellow". "The car is a production of" Ice Age ", involving, and promotional purposes. I do not drive a car or in Bulgaria or in Moscow. Accidental or twice had the car to be moved from one another slide But within a complex, "explained champion."
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| | | Petra AM akin
Number of posts : 3667 Age : 54 Residence : Germany Registration date : 2007-09-08
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Wed 24 Sep - 15:02 | |
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| | | piemontesina AM forever in love
Number of posts : 880 Age : 52 Residence : Torino Registration date : 2007-05-11
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Wed 24 Sep - 18:44 | |
| I really hope that everything ended today! Instead we are again on hold. Fortunately, our loved ones are very committed, so they think less! (And earn the money to pay penalties .... ) What terrible year...for all!! However, it is very nice to see them together in these moments ... Of course, thank you, Petra, for the news, you deserve a big hug!! | |
| | | Petra AM akin
Number of posts : 3667 Age : 54 Residence : Germany Registration date : 2007-09-08
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Wed 24 Sep - 22:14 | |
| - piemontesina wrote:
- I really hope that everything ended today! (...)
I hoped this too, Piemontesina! But maybe we will know the (I hope confirmed!) final sentence before the 24.10... Here´s an English version from novinite from todays trial: http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=97253
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| | | viktoria AM close friend
Number of posts : 1255 Age : 42 Residence : LA Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Thu 25 Sep - 1:54 | |
| Thank you for the news Petra.We all hoped that the final decision would be made .Another long month It was very brave of Albena to appear in the courtroom with Max .At least they put all those rumors away. | |
| | | a_Hot_Nerd AM in love
Number of posts : 126 Age : 48 Residence : California Registration date : 2007-09-18
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Thu 25 Sep - 5:25 | |
| I think both Albena and Maxims are heroes just for appearing in the court room, considerring they have to train hard for the show and teach the non-pro partners. | |
| | | why AM junior fan
Number of posts : 58 Age : 58 Residence : deep black forest, germany Registration date : 2008-09-07
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Thu 25 Sep - 12:34 | |
| Thank you for all the information, articles and photos, Petra - and Viktoria, risha... I've read through this thread of the forum many times before I joined in, after I've learned about Maxims accident (I must admit that I came to learn about it fairly late, in spring this year, the trial in January had already been over and everyone was waiting for the first appeal trial in April by that time). My heart went out to Maxim instantly (and, of course, to Albena), and I read through all these articles and looked at the pictures and a milllion thoughts have since entagled in my mind. How must this feel? They're going through an ordeal barely imaginable for someone who has never experienced anything the like... I had also hoped for an end of this - waiting for a verdict must be hellish. I agree with you, it's good to see them together, they belong together and that's reassuring. They gave proof of their decency and bravery by going to the court, since they were not obliged to. I wish them all the strengh and energy of the world to get on... There's still one thing I'd like to know, for I'm also not familiar with the Bulgarian law: - Petra wrote:
- It is only possible to confirm it or to give it back to first instance!
In case they decide to give it back to first instance - would this mean: back to Burgas court, back to the very beginning and everything would start anew?? Would it mean that?? Maybe, anyone can tell for sure what these terms mean... Y | |
| | | Petra AM akin
Number of posts : 3667 Age : 54 Residence : Germany Registration date : 2007-09-08
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Thu 25 Sep - 14:42 | |
| - why wrote:
- There's still one thing I'd like to know, for I'm also not familiar with the Bulgarian law:
- Petra wrote:
- It is only possible to confirm it or to give it back to first instance!
In case they decide to give it back to first instance - would this mean: back to Burgas court, back to the very beginning and everything would start anew?? Would it mean that?? Maybe, anyone can tell for sure what these terms mean... Y From what I have read in Bulgarian forum (some months ago they discussed there exactly this question): Yes, it would mean exactly this ! P.S.: I know Vania or Viki would correct me if I´m wrong with this! | |
| | | Vania AM bg team
Number of posts : 4637 Age : 46 Residence : Bulgaria Registration date : 2006-03-27
| | | | viktoria AM close friend
Number of posts : 1255 Age : 42 Residence : LA Registration date : 2007-01-23
| Subject: Re: Maxim in driving accident Sat 27 Sep - 2:39 | |
| I appreciate this journalist's position and i wanted to share it with you.Thank you Petra for finding this one. http://novini.dir.bg/2008/09/25/news3410397.html I’ll try to translate : Maxim did a mistake , me too.[DarikNews - September 25 13:37 The year was 1999 ,I was sitting in front of TV , watching a figure skating competition, when on the ice came out a young duet-the Bulgarian flag appeared too-and I heard the names-Albena Denkova and Maxim Staviski . I realized then , that on the international scene ,in unknown /she meant not very popular/for us sport we had competitors - no,actualy not only competitors but two brave hearted ,talented fighters. For years I was enjoying ,crying , worrying and going mad every time they were competing and when I was watching ,how their work was unappreciated /the right translation is stamp down/.The year was 2006 and the next World Figure Skating Championship came - they went out and did the unbelievable , like a magic ,they captured the ice and nobody could deny -Bulgarians were Number One in the World .In 2007 the impossible happened again and we all were more than proud with our two sportsmen - football /soccer /, volleyball and everything else stayed aside , everybody was watching Albena and Max, everyone wanted to reach them, their glory and success .And just like that, while we were enjoying them ,few months passed and came August 5,2007 , and turned the people’s favorites into the most hated .It was a pity , how we were able to transfer our curiosity from watching their performances to following the tragedy that crashed four families- those of Petar, Manuela, Albena and Maxim. With huge interest the whole country was watching what will happened next , and meanwhile dozens of lives were ruined , but we still were watching and watching and commenting . I don’t want to be misunderstood - when a person breaks the Law, needs to take the consequences of his actions , if you kill a human being ,yes ,you have to go to jail .However, this has to happen and to be valid for everybody ,not to be chosen electively ,like everything else in Bulgaria, so one can pay for everyone’s crimes,because this is exactly what we were trying to do with Maxim. Maxim killed a man, yes, he put in coma a young girl but once again I would’ve answered positively if someone asked me : Didn’t we kill Maxim with our words? Maybe now you could say “ Yes but the killer still lives his life” . I saw Maxim at the press conference that he held after the accident -and I could tell you that Maxim does not live his life. He doesn’t live anymore. I understood this at the moment I looked into his eyes ,even though he was trying to hide them from us ,the journalists. There was no life , the vividness ,that was sparkling every time he was talking , every time he was skating in front of us ,the audience ,was gone. Exactly then ,at this particular moment I realized that we had to stop throwing stones at those who were guilty .We needed to think about and ask ourselves :What Maxim did/driving after having one drink/, haven’t most of us done it before / at least once/ and what right do we have to judge him? My name is Theresa Zakharieva and I can admit in front of everybody , it happened to me . Just five days ago , I had a drink and I got behind the wheel. Yes ,I got lucky , luck which Maxim didn’t have , and I don’t know if I am going to be that fortunate again. Luck, that I don’t know if you are going to have one day . At the end we all learn from our mistakes, Maxim did his ,I did mine. Let all of us learn our lesson .' P.S The end sounds like a speech at AA meeting but she did make an excelent point. I just wish there were more journalists like her. ------- Suite à un grand nombre de réponses, ce sujet a été automatiquement divisé. Vous pouvez retrouver la suite de ce sujet ici : http://albena-maxim.heavenforum.com/viewtopic.forum?t=654
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