Maxim in driving accident

And now this just comes into my mind:
I find it verrrrry interesting that he said he took the money he used for gambling from Maxim´s money. Because before he always denied that he recieved the money of Maxim!
Another proof that Gorsov was always the one who was lying! Not Maxim was the lying one, it was Gorsov! It´s prooved now!!!

And here´s an article in English:
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=96434

This just makes me sick. Gorsov just makes fool of himself. What does he think, that if he says to his wife or anyone that he has not used the money from donations BUT the money Maxim has paid, that it makes it any better. He should wake up, the court decided about compensation for Manuela not for him. A really nice way how to use the money of your daughter.

Btw. I remeber that he wanted the money from Maxim to be transfered to the same account as the donations, so how does he know which money he used? Really interesting.

Petra wrote:

And now this just comes into my mind:
I find it verrrrry interesting that he said he took the money he used for gambling from Maxim´s money. Because before he always denied that he recieved the money of Maxim!
Another proof that Gorsov was always the one who was lying! Not Maxim was the lying one, it was Gorsov! It´s prooved now!!! :twiste

Ivana wrote:

Quote :

Btw. I remeber that he wanted the money from Maxim to be transfered to the same account as the donations, so how does he know which money he used? Really interesting.

viktoria wrote:

http://www.btv.bg/news/news_details.pcgi?cont_id=117352

According to this material Gorsov spent 70 000 leva from Maxim,s compensation. The mother,s comment was that he didn,t touch the donation but only Staviski,s money. And what is the difference ?

The more I think about it, the more I fear there will be a difference . A difference for Gorsov !

The prosecution started an investigation, but they did start it only because they think the money might be taken from the donations. So, if it´s not taken from the donations but from Maxim´s money, and if Maxim´s money was transferred to another account than the one for the donations (I´m not really sure about to what account Maxim´s lawyer transferred Max´s money ), then Gorsov might escape the investigation , because then the conditions to make an investigation are not given any longer...


I hope I explained it understandable...

Yes, it's possible that he can excape the investigation....
But, morally, it's the same....
Now all the people knows who he is....

piemontesina wrote:

Yes, it's possible that he can excape the investigation....
But, morally, it's the same....
Now all the people knows who he is....

I agree with you - whether he escapes or not from the investigation, the fact is that he spent a huge sum - it's 70000 BGN or 35 000 EUR!!!! A normal person shoudn't do that. What is the difference if the money are from the donation account or from Max!?!? No matter what is the origin, even if he won a lottery, every normal parent, in this situation, should spend this money for his child.

I don't know if someone has already mentioned it, but the businesman who engaged Gorsov in his company, says now that probably he'll fire him

Vania wrote:

I don't know if someone has already mentioned it, but the businesman who engaged Gorsov in his company, says now that probably he'll fire him

I don´t want to be mean, but in my opinion this would be a fair punishment for Gorsov...

And in this article below it is confirmed now that really 70.000 Leva (=35.000 Euros) are missing! They found it in the first check of the 120 pages printout of the accounts!

http://dnes.dir.bg/2008/08/27/news3323722.html (in Bulgarian)

Translation of the important part by google. (The other text has no new information.):

"According to sources of television first review of the printouts of the movement in the accounts confirmed exported from our team details that are lost over 70 thousand leva."

This is the price he has to pay for being "famous " but he is not the only irresponsible in this mess .People knew about his addiction ,escpecialy those from his hometown Veliko Tarnovo but still nobody said anything .It is like to trust a wolf to guard a sheep.The result is :not to many people will be naive to donate money and more children in need will suffer the consequences of his actions ,not only his daughter .Imagine, he had the nerve to say that he will make a fund to help kids who were injured in auto accidents and the rest of the money for Manuela will go to that fund . How pathetic is this now?
Oh well ,i just hope that the rest of the money will be enough at least for Manuela.

I agree that Gorsov's behavior is outrageous and horrible, as well as representative of an end-stage addict. What person with a conscience could do this to his own child?

I have to say that I am amazed at all of your explanations of such an injustice. You discern the legal and moral issues, the wrongful acts and implications, as well as the injustices, and explain them so well in a language that is not native to your country. I am so touched by your moral conscience and, even more so, that you brought all of these discernments and articulations to bear in your support of Maxim during his deeply troubled times. I have great faith in the human race, based on what I have read in this forum. May God bless all of you--and Maxim and Albena. Sue

It weren´t "only" 70.000 Leva, but 75.000 Leva! That´s what the chief of the Sofia Regional Prosecutor´s Office confirmed today. Gorsov will be accused in the coming days! If his guilt is proven in court (and in my opinion it should be with the video proof and the printout of the bank accounts!) Sofia police says Gorsov may receive 5 years imprisonment...
So quickly life can turn around 180 degrees...

Meanwhile (in another article) Gorsov gave an interview in which he confirmed that he gambled. But he said that on 24. September he will come to Maxim´s trial at Supreme Court in Sofia and will look Maxim in the eyes ...
Somehow this man can´t stop!
Besides: Gorsov at the moment isn´t allowed to return to Israel / to leave Bulgaria ...

http://www.segabg.com/online/article.asp?issueid=3072&sectionid=2&id=0000402 (in Bulgarian)

Translation by google:

"Father of Manuela is proigral 75 000 leva

Father of Manuela - Krasimir Gorsov, has recognised that gambling is played with money from the accounts of their treatment of his daughter and is lost. With initial data are talking about 75 000 leva told a Sega chief of the Sofia Regional Prosecutor's Office (SRP) Alexander Nalbantov. This confirming and the interrogation of krupieta of kazinata where hodil Gorsov.
SRP completed check against Gorsov yesterday and initiate criminal proceedings against him for abuse of trust for having acted against the legitimate interests of his daughter. If his guilt is proven in court, he may receive up to 5 years imprisonment and a fine of 100 to 300 leva On Gorsov not yet raised accusations. It is expected that to happen in the coming days.
During the case with the precision will be established and damages. If Gorsov cooperate with the prosecution office, he has no impediment to travel to Israel, where he is treated Manuela. The girl suffered severe past summer in an accident, caused by Maxim Staviski road Burgas - the mountain.
Gorsov encountered a mushkata of the prosecution after an investigation by the TV hidden camera, it showed how the stakes in the casino. Initially claimed that he plays with money from donations, but later it became clear that teglil of compensation paid by Staviski.
After the report three bank accounts were blocked, a single mother Diana became guardian of Manuela. Now it may only dispose of the money the girl. Meanwhile, it became clear that the state of Manuela slowly improving. After the crash from various charitable events and donations were collected around 270 000 leva."

I read

.".....initiate criminal proceedings against him for abuse of trust for having acted against the legitimate interests of his daughter."


This part is very interesting: it seems to mean that it's not so important if the money comes by Maxim or others...

Simply, this money was for Manuela recovering, and that's enough!!!

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=96594

Vania wrote:

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=96594

Hmmm...

What do you think...Will Gorsov after all this have the nerves to go to Straßbourg with Maxim´s trial?????
Or will everything really be finished for Maxim after the trial at supreme court???

Petra wrote:

Vania wrote:

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=96594

Hmmm...

What do you think...Will Gorsov after all this have the nerves to go to Straßbourg with Maxim´s trial?????
Or will everything really be finished for Maxim after the trial at supreme court???

I think it will be finished soon... I've never believed, even before this story, that he'll appeal in Strasbourg or that someone will pay attention to him there.
And now, after that "his passion" came out, there's no normal court in the world that would give him a higher compesation.

Thanks, Vania!!! That´s what I hope for, too, now!!!

Besides: It was found out that Gorsov was lying again. You remember that he said he only took the money from the account Maxim paid at, and that he didn´t take the money from the account where the donations for Manuela are?
Now it was found out that he took the money from all three accounts, this means from the money Maxim paid and from the donations!!

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=96576 (in English)

Quote from the article:
"The investigation further reveals that the father has been using all three accounts, disproving his claims before the girl's mother that he had used only the money deposited by Staviiski."

OMG!
It´s becoming more and more money now! According to this news from Bulgarian National TV (BNT) from today the sum is up to 100.000 Leva now ...

I´m in loss of words for this and for Gorsov´s behaviour, really...

http://btv.bg/news/news_details.pcgi?cont_id=117669 (in Bulgarian) with video

Thanks to Hrisi for the link!!

Translation of the important parts (by google):
(...)
01.09.2008 / 19:19

Meanwhile, it became clear that the father of Manuela is zloupotrebil by 100 thousand Leva from daritelskite accounts.
(...)
Krassimir Gorsov zloupotrebil is around 100 thousand Leva.
(...)
Father of tezhkoranenoto by Maxim Staviski girl has made 18 download sums of several thousand Leva. For them he has no documents relating to the treatment of his daughter.
"We have collected enough data against Krassimir Gorsov for abuse of trust. Deliberate acted against the interests of his daughter Manuela, which are followed by significant damage. Namely - is razhodval funds collected from donations for gambling", explained to the bTV Alexander Nalbantov, District Prosecutor of Sofia.

"The amount is not razhodvana for treatment, is about 100 thousand Leva, a period starting from January," said Nalbantov and added: "The sole Gorsov acknowledges that razhodval money in gambling games. We are very aware that the Mr. Gorsov experienced personal tragedy, but this in no way justifies it, it is proigral in gambling funds collected from donors. We have data on accounts except that there are other funds given by donors on hand. I will check and how they are spent.
(...)"

Thank you Vania and Petra It doesn't make any difference if it's $1 or 100 000 leva .Father who truly care about his kid would've saved every cent One day his daughter is going to be the judge of his actions . I don't wish him to go to jail but i really doubt if his self-conscience is good enough.

I found in some Bulgarian articles that today is Manuela´s birthday... She´s 19 today.
I wish her the best of the world!!!

Petra wrote:

I found in some Bulgarian articles that today is Manuela´s birthday... She´s 19 today.
I wish her the best of the world!!!

Oh... I'm 19 today too. I wish Manuela a lot of health

I wish all the best for Manuela!!

Girls, Vania and me decided it´s time to put this in now:

Girls, I really do not like to write this post, but I think we can´t be silent any longer and hide. It´s necessary to inform now, especially because we think that you maybe have read something about it in other forums and in internet.
I think you have noticed the topic "Please read me" and what Vania and me wrote there.
Since some days there are going some rumours around in nearly every Denkova-Staviski forum now. As Vania wrote, nobody knows something concrete about this, every internet paper in Russia and Bulgaria is copying from each other.
We only know so far: Maxim (on Sunday?) was seen behind the wheel of a car, that is something we know for sure. It happened in Moscow. But: Nobody really saw that he was driving! He only sat there, talking to his dancing partner in IceAge 3, Tatiana Arntgolts. There is no proof that he started the car and drove!
According to an information from Maxim´s lawyer from today, Maxim has no prohibition to drive in Russia!
I write this information here because I want to prevent speculations and rumours. There are enough going around in other forums and in the web! We don´t need them here! And at the moment we don´t want to have links to articles that are full of speculations and rumours.
Therefore this information has to be enough at the moment, I think!
I hope you understand and respect!
We all love Albena and Maxim so much here, we don´t want to hurt them with rumours!

The info that Maxi´s lawyer gave to the press yesterday (This is fact, not rumour):

http://dnes.dir.bg/2008/09/10/news3367550.html (in Bulgarian)

Translation by google:

"Staviski has no prohibition to drive in Russia
September 10, 2008 / News.dir.bg
Maxim Staviski has no ban on driving in the territory of the Russian Federation, said his lawyer burgaskiyat Rosen Kozhuharov.
Lawyer, cited by Darik, explained that on video, uploaded in the Russian site, which is seen how figuristat, who bulgarian Court bans to drive a car for 4 years Uploading in car "Audi".
"Staviski have a driving license revoked by the authorities of Traffic Police, but this is a compulsory administrative measure. It is not automatic administration of the territory of Russia ", added lawyer Kozhuharov and recalled that still against Maxim Staviski no final judgement.
On the question of whether the information and clip on the Internet with the champion, who is about to sit behind the steering wheel in Russia, can influence the decision of the supreme judges, Kozhuharov replied that hopes this will not happen. According yurista same applies to the data for hazartnata light of father postradalata in crash with Staviski Manuela Gorsova and spend money from him.
"I have the assurance of Albena Denkova, which is in Moscow with Maxim that he will appear on trial on 24 September in the Supreme Court," said Kozhuharov."

Many many thanks again to Simon4eto from Bulgarian forum to post this article from the Bulgarian paper "24chasa":

Even the prosecutor in the trial has now stated that Maxim does not violate the law / against his sentence if he drives in Russia!

Quote from Bulgarian forum:

Quote :

Плащат 180 хил.лв. кръвнина преди делото

Обещетението за родителите на Петър Петров от Сливен, загинал при катастрофата със Стависки край р.Ропотамо, най-вероятно ще бъде изплатено преди делото във Върховния съд на 24 септември, научи "24 часда"
То е в размер на 180 000 лв. и бе присъдено на фигуриста от бургаски магистрати.
Вчера е имало среща в Бургас между защитниците на Стависки Явор Нотев и Росен Кожухаров и техния колега Младен Донев от Сливен, който представлява родителите на убитото момче.
"Постигнахме предварителна договорка Стависки да преведе от Москва парите по сметката на Албена Денкова. След това ще ни бъде посочена сметка, по която да се изплати обезщетението", обясни адвоката Росен Кожухаров .
Той допълни, че изплащането на обезщетението ще бъде официално заявено пред върховните магистрати.
Прокурорът по делото Светлозар Костов също коментира, че Стависки не е в нарушение, ако кара в родината си.

Translation by google:

"Pay 180 thousand BGN kravnina before trial

The payment for parents of Peter Petrov of Sliven, died in the crash near river Ropotamo with Staviski, will most likely be paid in the case before the Supreme Court on 24 September, wrote "24 chasa "
It is amounting to 180 000 leva and was res figurista of Bourgas by magistrates.
Yesterday there was a meeting in Burgas between defenders of Staviski Yavor Notev Kozhuharov and Rosen and their colleague Mladen Donev of Sliven, which represents parents of the dead boy.
"We have preliminary order of Staviski from Moscow to transfer money to the account of Albena Denkova. Then we will be designated account in which to pay compensation," explained Rosen's lawyer Kozhuharov.
He added that payment of compensation will be officially stated to the supreme magistrates.
The prosecutor in the case Svetlozar Kostov also commented that Staviski is not in violation if he drives home."

http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_22184596 (in Bulgarian)

Translation by webtrance and google:

"Staviski returns from Moscow for the trial

Maxim Staviski arrives from Moscow for the trial on 24 September, his lawyer Yavor Notev told. Remind the Supreme Court will consider the appeal of probational judgment on Staviski for the crash caused by his accident a year ago in which did Peter Petrov in Sliven died, 18 year old Manuela was in a coma long time, in the moment as well in bad condition treated in Israel.
Neither Notev nor his colleague Rossen Kozhuharov intend to use at the defence of Staviski what happened to the father of Manuela, Krasimir Gorsov. These are things that are outside the case. We do not have neither reason, nor the intention to use them, Notev announced.
On the question that Staviski drives In Moscow the lawyer Notev commented, that if there is a guilty verdict that will come into force, the Supreme appeal prosecution´s office will request to confiscating the driving licence of Staviski not only in Russia but everywhere.
The bulgarian driver ' s licence of Maxim was confiscated by traffic police as an enforcement measure that is standart procedure, the lawyer explained, to prevent other serious accidents. In Russia Staviski has been certified by the authorities that he used for driving, explained Notev."

http://paper.standartnews.com/bg/article.php?article=249026 (in Bulgarian)

Translation by google:

"Maxim transferred 60.000 for Peter
By Albena collect money from "IceAge", broken hearing to leave
Sofia.
Maxim Staviski pay the balance of 60 000 BGN for Peter Petrov. Three days ago money is transferred from lawyer Yavor Notev´s account to parents of the boy killed by truck of the champion. In court the mother and father of the killed son should receive 90 000 leva, plus interest and compensation for U.S. $ 4815 in property damage. The first part Staviski delinquent little after the verdict in the village.
Maxim and Albena gathered together the money for the second installment. Both accepted to participate in the show "IceAge" to give the fees to the family of Peter.
The amount sent at the end of last week from Russia account of the father of Albena, and he delivered to Notev.
(...???) Never been so united as now, I swear and their relatives.
According close to the figure skater, Albena and Maxim will accompany the case on Wednesday. Then the Supreme Cassation Court will watch the appeal of Krassimir Gorsov on probation Staviski of two and a half years. Staviski was punished with 80 and thousands of those in a coma after the crash Manuela Gorsova.
The presence of champions in the room is optional. However, the two (=Albena and Maxim) decided it was their moral duty to go.
Tanya Raynova"