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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeWed 14 Nov - 22:55

I fear that this, if really true and if I understood the headline right, is something really bad Shocked . Can someone give a summary, please??? It would take me hours to make a sense in the text, too ... Thanks!

[url] http://standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2007-11-14&article=211160 [/url]
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeThu 15 Nov - 6:39

Hi Petra,

I am not sure how to translate this. It is when court blocks someones bank accounts (or restricts access to them).
According to the info, the indictment will be in court in a few days. The paper work that is. This is according to a prosecutor. They have his name there. My understanding is that this is the whole info from the official.

Then it says that the trial will start in the first days of January.
According to the newspaper the accusation is for Petar's death and heavy injuries to Manuela (not sure if the source is the same official) . Meanwhile, the newspaper learned that Patar's family has requested Max's bank accounts to be blocked, twice. They also requested a ban for sale of property. They were afraid that Max is going to transfer all funds to his family and not pay to the victum's family. The court turned down those requests.

This is according to a news paper and I don't really know how much I can believe them. I don't think they are supposed to leak any information at this stage. Just beacuse the authorities are still working on the case.
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeThu 15 Nov - 7:25

In the first days of January? Spoke, that in the end of November... At all I don't know, it is good or bad... Question
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeThu 15 Nov - 9:43

I am not sure how much one can believe these newspapers.
Probaly some paperwork is close to getting ready.
But the January info looks kind of carefully written.
It was not clear if the prosecutor really said so or
they made up something again.
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeThu 15 Nov - 20:48

Hi, a_Hot_Nerd!
Thanks very much for your translation Friends zvet ! You helped a lot :vo: !


And 1000x thanks to Ivana for the link in the pm!!! zvet sunny Friends
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeThu 15 Nov - 21:34

Thank you, Petra and many thanks also to a_hot_Nerd for translation.
All those news are enough plausible....I would tell something...but...it's better no... No
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSat 17 Nov - 23:03

Shocked Believe me, I really hesitated a long time to post this, because it´s so full of hate and so dirty Mad Mad Mad . But it is posted in other forums, too, and so I think we should have this information here, too.
The text is only in Bulgarian. It gives a brief inside into what the mother of Petar Petrov thinks about Maxim. In it are some of her quotes. Concerning to a translation I found she is calling Max a "killer" and a "coward" Shocked Crying or Very sad . I was so shocked when reading the translation about this saaad Shocked ...

Lerka / Lana, if you think this one should not be posted, then delete it, please!!!

[url] http://standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2007-11-12&article=210913 [/url]

Edit:
And for those who can read Bulgarian: Here´s an interview (from Standart, 25.10.2007) with Petrovs mother. It´s old, but I found it today. Here she calls Max a "liar" and says the news conference he gave together with Albie was full of lies and was ugly ... And that she never in life will forgive him! Puh! I really don´t know what to say to this! saaad Shocked Shocked
[url] http://www.standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2007-10-25&article=208667 [/url]


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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 0:38

:| The x-rays from Maxim`s knee, made at 30.10.2007 ... :|
It´s from the Bulgarian "Sportni.bg", 11.11.2007 ... scratch

https://i.servimg.com/u/f23/11/64/23/73/maxims10.jpg

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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 2:42

Petar's mom is hurt very deeply. And I don't think anyone can
judge her too hard for what she says. This is why in these
cases people have attorneys to handle things.
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 5:11

Petar's mother doesn't know Maxim....I am angry because nobody works to do a meeting.. ( if it's true what she says...) If she speaks with Maxim and looks in his tired and sad eyes , perhaps something touchs her heart saaad
She is always a mother and Maxim a tender and sweet son.... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 10:46

So much hurt in the words of Peter's mother... It can be understood... But it so sad... Sad Sad Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 16:10

a_Hot_Nerd wrote:
Petar's mom is hurt very deeply. And I don't think anyone can judge her too hard for what she says.

I don't think she should be judged at all. Her son was killed, of course she's not going to feel favorably towards Maxim. If she's saying angry things to the press, she has a right to do that. Of course, it would be better if she wasn't doing this, but her feelings are 100% understandable.

Out of curiousity, is she specifing what "lies" Maxim made during that press conference? shocked

Terrible. saaad So much suffering surrounding this whole thing...
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Thanks for the article, Petra.

Ooooh I don't want to believe Maxim mede lies during press conference... Sad I watched press conference on the video which girls here posted. In the press conference, Maxim seemed that really feels sorry for victims and saying true feelings at all. If that article is true, what lies Maxim made? I don't know what to say...

Is there a possibility that she has a misunderstanding about what Maxim said in the press conference?


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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 18:18

Judging by what she said in this interview, Petar's mother misinterpreted most of Max's words. But this is quite normal - in this situation anything said would be misinterpreted. It is just so sad and so complicated. saaad
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sunny She is mother who lost her child,she is hurt deeply ,it is her anger and unbearable pain that is talking.There is nothing wrong,everyone at her stage of grief would say this.It takes time to forget and forgive.Max and Albenka told what is in their heart and she say what she feels .It is the media that plays with their pain and tragedy and is very wrong to do it.In the court everyone will say their opinion,version but at the end is up to the judge to decide and give the sentence .
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeSun 18 Nov - 22:37

I think too that she reacts very emotional. And that´s, as Viktoria wrote, is normal; she lost her child. I don´t want to judge her, Lana, I only think she should be more cautious / careful with the choice of her words. I mean she said it to media and I´m sure she knew it was published afterwards, and that not only in Bulgaria. The words she used are very hurtful. And the trial did not begin till now. I´m of the opinion she can utter her feelings at court, and not only "she can", but "she has to". There´s the right place for it, but the right place for sure isn´t an interview with press. She calls him a liar, but: How does she know? She was not with him when he drank. She was not with him when the accident happened. She was in Italy at that time. So: How does she know if Max lies or not? She can´t know, but she says it, and that´s definitively not o.k., IMO. We don´t know, neither. We hope he didn´t, but to know this for sure, no, we don´t. Only Max knows if he was lieing at that press conference or not. And it is to the court to find out what really has happened...And we here can only hope she really only misinterpretated what Max said ...
So, to make it clear: What I was shocked so much about was the choice of her words and that she said it to media without knowing if the accusations she said are really true. I mean, I fully understand that she is hurt deeply, that she is sad completely and that she does not know how to handle her pain and her desperation. I think I would be completely desperate, completely sad and deeply hurt, too, if I were in her situation. That´s completely understandable. But giving such an interview to media, and that before the trial started, that´s not understandable to me ...
Besides I think it´s good that there was no meeting between her and Max till now. That would have made everything much worser and much more painful. It will be painful enough during the court trial, for both parts, Max and her! And, Viktoria, you are right! It´s good that in the end it´s up to the court (and not to her or anybody else involved in that accident) to decide and to give the sentence!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 18 Icon_minitimeMon 19 Nov - 3:35

I think differently.
To arrive at the trial without contacts can be a disaster!!
I think that the same prosecutors hope they come to an agreement....
(and perhaps something is doing... I suppose..).
Sure ,now there is a great misunderstanding .
Petar's mother appears very displeased because Maxim never called her, but Maxim didn't call her because he was afraid to be tacless and ill-timed..That proves his delicacy in front of the tragedy, not the contrary!!! Evil or Very Mad
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20.11.2007: Burga´s Prosecutor´s Office files indictment against figure skater Maxim Staviski:
[url] http://focus-fen.net/?id=n127579 [/url]

and here: Prosecution brought to court the indictment Act against Staviski:
[url] http://international.ibox.bg/news/id_1441620235 [/url]

And a little bit more detailed in Bulgarian press:
[url] http://news.ibox.bg/news/id_1517606651 [/url]

and here, Bulgarian, too:
[url] http://dnes.dir.bg/2007/11/20/news2355270.html [/url]

In the last one there´s something, as far as I understand, about an "assert civil claim against Staviski on over 100.000 leva". Question
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From the Czech forum:

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Hey Petra...Yes is true...Petar mother want more than 100 000 leva...I read, that doctor in Bulgaria have cca 650 leva on month....
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100 000 leva - how much in dollars?
Petra, this photo is breaking heart... Sad Sad Sad But they together. heart2 saaad saaad
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today... 1 leva - 1.322850 dollar
100 000 - 132 285 dollars

affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid

but there are sentence about... "over" 100 000 leva....
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Ewuch wrote:
today... 1 leva - 1.322850 dollar
100 000 - 132 285 dollars

affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid

but there are sentence about... "over" 100 000 leva....

Actually 1 USD=1.322850 leva
100 000 leva aproximately equal to 75 594 USD
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Ewuch wrote:
Hey Petra...Yes is true...Petar mother want more than 100 000 leva...I read, that doctor in Bulgaria have cca 650 leva on month....

Hi Ewuch! Many, many thanks zvet . So, I understood it right saaad ...

Besides: The fixed rate of exchange for Leva to Euro is:
1 Euro = 1,95583 Bulgarian Leva, therefore
100.000 Leva = 51.129,19 Euro (not only today, but always!).
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Ewuch wrote:
today... 1 leva - 1.322850 dollar
100 000 - 132 285 dollars

affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid

but there are sentence about... "over" 100 000 leva....

uppppppppppps sorry some little math misteke.... lol! lol!
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