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Bea wrote after watching the Da VINCI CODE!

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I am a cafteria Catholic too!! In fact LOOOOTS...Thousands..I daresay, millions of people in catholic countries are.

As for the Opus Dei...I think Bea, does not know the people...We , in POrtugal, simply know that they belong to it, because they have said it or our newspapers have written It!
Most of them are common enough, although very serious!

One of our ministers was always defending that women should have more children ..but well. here women don't wish it...only want to have the children they choose and plan to have soooo...we are all excommunicated!

MILLIONS OF WOMEN ARE ALSO EXCOMMUNICATED IN SPAIN TOO!!!


BEA ALSO WROTE!

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Dear Maria!

Just a word to you, about this!
I know you are going to watch this in spanish because the movies over there are dubbed so you wouldn't be able to perceive the following!
When the cahracters that belong to Opus DEi speak they do it either in latin or in spanish!
I think that it is a terrible injustice to people in Spain today...and to your country..which is becoming one of the most developed countries in Europe today!!! ! As a matter of fact Spain is growing more than Germany these days!!! There are people that belong to Opus Dei in Spain..but there are lots of people who are Opus DEi in other Catholic Countries!
Soooo...why pick on Spain????

The fact that they put the characters that belong to the OPUS DEI to speak spanish does not come as a surprise!
In fact..It was a spaniard that founded Opus DEI! and In my country there are over half a million people that belong to it!!
I am not offended..but perhaps DAN BROWN has a very poor idea WHAT MY COUNTRY IS TODAY!!!

Maria

IT wasn't me who wrote that! It was SERENA but I totally agree!!

I didn't know that it was a Spaniard that invented OPUS DEI!
So you have to make allowances for DAN BROWN ..after all it was Spain who began with the Inquisition too!!

MARIA, DEAR!!! I AM JUST TEASING!!!!

Bea wrote:

Dear Z!!!

Thanks for the the link about the explanation!

I just wanted to say this!

Most Catholics did not want this Pope!
We wanted someone that had more open ideas!
I think that change in certain issues cannot be deterred now!!!
Millions od Catholics have been waiting for it!!

It's true. I agree. Romania is mostly an Orthodox country, but there are many catholics as well. My family from my mom's side are all catholics and I am also a catholic. We all disaprooved the choices those bishops did. I really sympathised Pope John Paul II and in my opinion he succeeded to change many thisng in our agitated and tormented world.

The actual Pope read officially some rules that a women has to respect . In my opinion this was a bit out of line. She has to be submissive, to shut up. He almost said that a woman is just a bearer.
Maybe I'm wrong and I took these statements out of the contex, but eitherway. I kind of miss Pope John Paul.

Dear ALEXANDRA!!!

I MISS POPE JOHN PAUL VERY MUCH!!!

HE WAS SOMEONE WHO WELCOMED ALL THE PEOPLE...JUST LIKE OUR LORD!!

I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS POPE AND HIS RULES FOR WOMEN! MY FRIENDS ..BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS SAY THAT THESE RULES WON'T DO IN A MODERN WORLD!!!
GOD CREATED US MEN AND WOMEN AS EQUALS!!!

Bea wrote!

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Maria

IT wasn't me who wrote that! It was SERENA but I totally agree!!

I didn't know that it was a Spaniard that invented OPUS DEI!
So you have to make allowances for DAN BROWN ..after all it was Spain who began with the Inquisition

Dear B EA!! I am sooo sorry!!
I must be tired to switch your names!

I think you have a point! Most people still see my country as a very conservative one in mattters of religion!
Well,...there is a part of the population who is still rather conservative...but my country changed sooooo much!
It has nothing to do with the Spain most people have in mind!
TODAY SPAIN IS A VERYYYYY MODERN COUNTRY INDEED!!!

UN MONTON DE BESOS!!!

DEARS ALEX AND SERENA!

YOU ARE SOOOO RIGHT!!!

I think all catholics miss Pope John Paul!!
He was special ! He had lots of conservative views , but he understood us all! AND.... PEOPLE LIKED HIM AND RESPECTED HIM!!!!

He was understanding...not a dictator
He cared for all,...and he forgave everyone...just like Jesus did!

HE SHOWED LOVE AND COMPASSION FOR HIS FLOCK!!!
HE HAS FOREVER A PLACE IN OUR HEARTS!!!

Yes!!!

Dear Maria!

You are right!


OMG!!! COULD YOU HAVE IMAGINED THAT ONE BOOK COULD MAKE US THINK ABOUT SO MANY THINGS !!!

Dear GIRLS!!!

I have just watched the DAVINCI CODE in the right after lunch session!
I liked it! I liked it very much!
I think it is a good work of fiction and Tom Hanks and Sophie Tatou are very good!
I think the movie leaves us a message of hope !!! AND ...THAT I FIND VERY IMPORTANT!!!

Finally!!!

I am going to watch the movie after midnight in the late night session!
My children are going to sleep at my in laws!

I am very curious after all that I have read here and in the newspapers!!



SWEET DREAMS TO ALLLLLL

UN MONTON DE BESOS!!!

Maria wrote:

Finally!!!

I am going to watch the movie after midnight in the late night session!
My children are going to sleep at my in laws!

I am very curious after all that I have read here and in the newspapers!!



SWEET DREAMS TO ALLLLLL

UN MONTON DE BESOS!!!

ENJOY THE MOVIE!!!
Have a lovely time, a great evening, a perfect night!!!

Thanks for your wish...I actually miss a sweet dream. I need one! Maybe I'm too tired to have one...or to remember one.

Seems I'll be the last one to see the movie. Oh, well...You'll tell me, right?!
You were all great to share your impressions...

Nighty night.. :<33:

alexandra wrote:

Seems I'll be the last one to see the movie. Oh, well...You'll tell me, right?!

No... erm... that would be me. I cannot seem to get my friends to find a free day in their schedule for it. We all have so much studying.

I hope you enjoy the movie, Maria! Be sure to tell us your opinion.

Alex wrote!

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ENJOY THE MOVIE!!!
Have a lovely time, a great evening, a perfect night!!!

THANKS...DEAREST!!! :<33:
I think it was worth it!

Lana wrote!

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hope you enjoy the movie, Maria! Be sure to tell us your opinion.

Thanks, dearest! :<33:

Well...you know I saw it in spanish...because they dubb the movies here..but I was already told that the Opus Dei Characters spoke either latin or spanish!
But..I was shocked when Langdon sort of compares the clothes of KU KLux Klan with the robes of spanish priests during Easter in the SEVILLA PROCESSIONS! :shocked:Most of the people in the audience were shocked too!
I haven't had time yet to find that part in the book ...but I am going to look!
Silas is a complex character..but I doubt that any catholic monk still uses flogging as a penitence! I thought the same when I read the book!!
Catholic monks today, are perfect common people that have chose a certain way of life!
I fact,..most catholic monks , usually help the poor and the helpless just like the monks thst appear in Zorro part one and part !!
They protect the weak and help political refugees! [ I am not talking about the bishops and the high hierarchy!]It was always sooo!!!

I liked Tom Hanks and Sophie Tatou!! They have some chemistry and that makes the movie more interesting!

I liked That part when the confusion and commotion in the Niceia meeting is shown,... because that can explain why some of the mistakes along these centuries have been commited...
And I also liked the way the action unfolds especially in the Louvre!
And that part when Teabing shows that Maria of Magadala rests her face on Jesus shoulders , when he is showing the last Supper painting and shiftes the figure is delightful!!!

WELL..IT IS A VERY GOOD movie..but, forgive me ...I liked the book better!

BESOS!

Serena wrote:

Dear GIRLS!!!

I have just watched the DAVINCI CODE in the right after lunch session!
I liked it! I liked it very much!
I think it is a good work of fiction and Tom Hanks and Sophie Tatou are very good!
I think the movie leaves us a message of hope !!! AND ...THAT I FIND VERY IMPORTANT!!!

I'm glad you liked it, Serena I agree that the actors are great! Thanks for your opinion!

And, Maria, did you watch it already?

Si...Querida mia!

And I have already posted my opinion just before your last message!!!



Besos!

Maria wrote:

Si...Querida mia!

And I have already posted my opinion just before your last message!!!



Besos!

Silly, silly Vania sorry, Maria, I read only the beginning of your post and than my colleague told me something, distracting me and I forgot to read it till the end now I read it
I think in the book too, Langdon compares the clothes of the CuCluxClan with the clothes of Spanish priests, I'm almost sure of it, also the other signs he shows in the movies are mentioned in the book (I read it 2 weeks ago, so I remember well )

Kisses!

Thank you for your comments querida Maria !!!

Maria wrote:

But..I was shocked when Langdon sort of compares the clothes of KU KLux Klan with the robes of spanish priests during Easter in the SEVILLA PROCESSIONS! :shocked:Most of the people in the audience were shocked too!

If I remember well, he didn't compare the clothes but said that some pictures can throw into confusion if it is not taken as a whole. Anyway, it is what I think... But Dan Brown didn't write anything about it (if i remember well. I looked in the book but I didn't find this passage).

Marina wrote:

But Dan Brown didn't write anything about it (if i remeber well. I looked in the book but I didn't find this passage).

hmmm .... I think he did, but I'm not very sure ... maybe I have to look too

Vania wrote:

Marina wrote:

But Dan Brown didn't write anything about it (if i remeber well. I looked in the book but I didn't find this passage).

hmmm .... I think he did, but I'm not very sure ... maybe I have to look too

The one says something and the other says something else... We must read again the book !!!
Someone could help us ?

erm ... don't laugh at me but do you know what book I began to read :study: - Winnie the Pooh!!! I like it soooo much, I know it's a book for children, but ... I like so much Winnie, I even got plush toys of Winnie and Eeyore I suppose it's childish, but I adore plush toys

Vania wrote:

I suppose it's childish, but I adore plush toys

I love plush toys too ! I have a lot at home !

Yeah... Winnie the Pooh... I guess it is not difficult to read... But why not ? If you didn't read when you were a child, mieux vaut tard que jamais ! (I'm sorry for girls who don't speak French, but I don't know how to say that in English. But Vania will understand me ! ).

Well,...you know dears,..when movies are dubbed...theere is always a place for misunderstandings , soooo perhaps that wasn't the author's intention....

And I haven't had time to look it up in the book!But..I have just read your posts...
I am still at school.. now...because I have a meeting in half an hour but i decided to read this forum for a while!!!

Marina wrote:

If you didn't read when you were a child, mieux vaut tard que jamais ! (I'm sorry for girls who don't speak French, but I don't know how to say that in English. But Vania will understand me ! ).

Well, I did read it as a child and I read it again!
And I thinks it's better late than never (probably)

Dear girls!

I have just checked in the book, and Dan Brown doesn´t even speak of Spain and spanish priests in that part of the book

So....I don´t know what to think...really!!

Maria wrote:

Dear girls!

I have just checked in the book, and Dan Brown doesn´t even speak of Spain and spanish priests in that part of the book

So....I don´t know what to think...really!!

Probably he speaks about that in ANOTHER part of the book

Vania wrote!

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Probably he speaks about that in ANOTHER part of the book :scratch

Yeahhh!!! YOU are right!! It sems I have to read the book again!! when I have time!!!!