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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeWed 24 Oct - 20:11

Crying or Very sad From today, 19:40 o´clock ...

[url] http://focus-fen.net/?id=n125200 [/url] and

[url] http://standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2007-10-24&article=208579 [/url] in Bulgarian, and

[url] http://www.standartnews.com/en/article.php?d=2007-10-24&article=7178 [/url] in English, and

[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86767 [/url]

From novinite: Quote: " Staviski´s defendant demanded a three-year suspended sentence and five years to be served in probation. The lawyers proposed also their client´s deprivation of a driving licence for three years." pale What means "Three years suspended sentence"??? Does it mean they asked for three years jail time??? pale (Sorry, it might depend on my English that I does not understand this. Can someone explain in other words, please? Thanks!)

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Translation (by google) for the first article of standartnews.com:
"Staviski again asks for Themis deal
Maxim Staviski again asked for Bourgas district prosecution agreement in the case of the crash near Ropotamo. World champion the request yesterday with his lawyer Rosen Kozhuharov. His first request was firmly rejected. Staviski has declared that it will iztarpi penalty imposed on him, but insists that does not result in an open trial."


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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeWed 24 Oct - 21:39

Thanks very much for the articles, Petra.

As I understand it, a suspended sentence is a situation in which one does not have to serve time in jail IF he abides by the rules of his probation or other stipulations the court might impose.

This would be a blessing for Maxim.

According to the articles, regardless of how good he has been to the families of the other parties involved in the accident, they are not willing to work with him on a settlement. How sad.

I never thought this whole process would take such a long time and I'm sure its length is magnified a thousand times from Albena's and Maxim's perspective.

We need to keep praying and keep trusting that things will turn out well!

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Thanks for explaining it to me, joyva zvet . Now I understand the meaning of the article ...
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeWed 24 Oct - 22:12

I can hardly believe this nooo !!! There are four Exclamation articles now, all from Novinite and all from today. I think it´s hardly necessary (sorry for my irony!) to write that they are all about Max and his case ... Would not one article be enough? Again I´m in loss of words for the behaviour of mass media ...

[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86750 [/url]
[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86759 [/url]
[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86767 [/url]
[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86773 [/url]

Besides this: If you read one article, you know 85% of the others ...

But Novinite will still have more than two hours left today to publish more articles about Max. Perhaps then they will break the world record in publishing articles about one person in a single day ... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
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I love you I agree Petra they beat their own record and imagine this is one of few international news sources . Once again the media is a trying to make a spectacle out of a huge tragedy and make Maxim the biggest world villain by twisting his words .I just wish Albie and Max didn't gave this press conference.They wanted to be honest with journalists but most of them a capable of anything just to make a news and fed the crowd with sensation. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Oct - 3:34

After reading the articles that were in English, I am so afraid that people will unintentionally place Maxim in the same category as some of the American celebrities who have been in the news in recent months. As all members of this forum know, Maxim Staviski is light years ahead of any celebrity due to his hard work and exemplary life.

Surely in these days of RussiaToday and other global news agencies, that would never happen. (I worry about everything.) I just wish we could do something.

This is very delicate, so please excuse what I'm about to say if it is inappropriate: would there be a way to establish a scholarship in the name of Petar Petrov so he will live on through the education of future generations? I'm not rich, but I would be honored to contribute something.

Something similar was done at our campus, except the funds went to a domestic violence shelter. A student who was about to start her first semester in a marketing program passed away after a car accident. Her Mom made a contribution to the shelter in the student's name, and we wanted to do something in the student's name, too.

I know Maxim is suffering, and many of us feel so bad for the hurting loved ones and for Maxim. I guess my pea-sized brain just has to feel that something good will emerge from all this. If this is out of line, please yell at me in capital letters.
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Oct - 5:38

I feel sorry for the people who write those papers or the people who may have ordered them so saaad

Max may feel uncertain about his near future, but he is smart, talanted and honest. And those who prey on him may never even learn what these things are.

Sue, your idea is good. It may be early for it though.
For the past two and a half months, it has been mostly the media that has been placing labels on Max. I couldn't believe how many people buy what media claims(don't mean you Sue). Max may not be guilty at all. From what I know, Bulgarian law is still based on the Roman law, innocent until proven guilty. Some of the other Bulgarians here may correct me if I am wrong.

Albie and Max should read carefully the auto expertise. It is quite likely that those "experts" may still go to the place and look for clues if needed. After my accident, the marks from my tires stayed on the road for a very long time in rainy Oregon (I moved to CA later on). In Max's case, clues too may be still at the spot if needed.
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Oct - 20:52

Petra wrote:
I can hardly believe this nooo !!! There are four Exclamation articles now, all from Novinite and all from today. But Novinite will still have more than two hours left today to publish more articles about Max. Perhaps then they will break the world record in publishing articles about one person in a single day ... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
You can believe it or not: After I posted that quote above I went back to Novinite and there was a fifth article about Max!!! I don´t give the link here, because it was / is so full of hate that I can´t stand it ... Shocked
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a_Hot_Nerd wrote:
Max may not be guilty at all. From what I know, Bulgarian law is still based on the Roman law, innocent until proven guilty. Some of the other Bulgarians here may correct me if I am wrong.

Erm.. Well, Maxim has admitted that he was responsible for the accident. So, really what we have to wait for now is what the consequence of that will be in court. :blush2: But I no longer think it's a question of guilt or innocence. saaad
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Max said he will wait for the expertise to be ready, because he doesn't remember well everything that happened. He doesn't remember to across the line in the middle of the road (I don't know how it's called in English).
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeThu 25 Oct - 23:49

Again from Novinite. Today they only have one article (till now!).

[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86797 [/url]

Oh dear ... Oh my!

And one in Bulgarian: [url] http://www.standartnews.com/bg/article.php?d=2007-10-25&article=208693 [/url]

In this second article there is something written about "60-70%". Please, correct me if I´m wrong (I hope that I am!!!). I think they say here that in the region of Bourgas 60-70% of the cases similar to Maxim´s result in prison sentence. Shocked Crying or Very sad pale If that´s really true, it´s a high percentage. So let´s hope and pray ...

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Translation (by google) of the standartnews.com article from above:
"Maxim cut to probation
Prosecution rejected his request for an agreement, prosecutor again confuse the subparagraphs
Burgas / Sofia. Prosecution in Burgas cut the request of Maxim Staviski for out of court. World champion asked 3-year suspended sentence and 3 years deprivation of the right to drive a car. Deputy. district attorney of Burgas Svetlozar Kostov said yesterday it strongly rejected the request. "Prosecution may conclude an agreement with a defendant without the participation of victims. However, we have views of family killed in the crash youth," said Kostov. Relatives claimed that an agreement on a conditional sentence is unacceptable and not satisfactory. Burgas prosecutors explored issued in the last 3 years sentences for crimes with victims in alcohol. 60-70% of cases, such as Staviski are effective sentences. Every time doznatelkata will present the conclusion, then charge will be introduced in court.
Meanwhile, however, continued prosecution of his tragicomedy of errors in the case "Staviski. After Monitoring investigation Prosecutor Ivan Stanev strange accusation was wrong and little to rescue the champion of bars, now gaffe made him chief Angel Angelov. And in order to penalize Stanev error because his case "Staviski.
Punish guilty accuser is a "notice" because the wrong paragraph in which the accused Staviski of the crash. Yesterday, however, knew that his boss has been almost the same mistake, namely - the paragraph that the punished Stanev. This gaffe a dispute among members of the SJC to be a decision in the least penalties as a note. Despite the dispute, however, 16 magistrates voted for the punishment, 7 were against and 2-ma abstained.
Elena Dimitrova
Maria Maksimova"


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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeFri 26 Oct - 7:29

Petra,
you got the things right. But, media is no court though, so let's wait for something which is not just empty talk.

Meanwhile, try to get a ticket for the show and let us know.
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http://www.dnevnik.bg/show/?storyid=391526
I found this.
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A quick and I hope accurate attempt for translation. It looks brief and down to the point. I don't normaly browse newspapaers for this kind of news and I don't know if there are translations elsewhere. No reason to panic.

Lerka, please feel free to delete any post of mine that seems un-appropriate or irritating.

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Defense of Maxim Staviski has a witness, who saw that one of the cars involved in the crash was speeding, said the attorney Rosen Kozhuharov quoted by Darik radio.

According to the attorneys of Staviski, a witness of the accident of Aug. 5 has called a few days ago and offered to testify in Maxim’s favor, said focus agency. The man claimed that at the time of the accident the car of Petar Petrov was moving at a high speed and passed him.

When attorneys received the materials from the pre-court investigation, they requested questioning of the witness, but the county’s prosecution office refused, informs Darik radio. “We have not decided what to do after the prosecution refusal to question the witness. Depending on the prosecution decision on the indictment we are going to decide how to act”, said the attorney Kozhuharov while answering a question whether this or other witnesses are going to be called during the trial.

Vice chief prosecutor for the county, Svetlozar Kostov explained that the prosecution office offered the defense to question the witness during the trial. “This witness is going to be questioned for sure and we may call him too”, said the prosecutor Kostov. According to the defense the witness decided to contact them after the press conference of Maxim Staviski.

The county prosecution office is supposed to prepare the indictment within 30 days and submit it to the court, where the judge handling the case as well as the date when the trial will begin will be determined.
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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Oct - 21:01

If that would be correct, a_Hot_Nerd, it would be good for Maxim! So let´s hope it is!! And let´s hope that the eye witness, if really questioned during the trial, will give the same information there Exclamation !!! Also here in Germany I have heard about other cases at which the eye witnesses decide to contact police or court for the first time a long time after the accident has happened. So it might not be impossible ... scratch

Let´s hope that this is not another "joke" of the press!!

P.S.: Thanks for your translation, a_Hot_Nerd zvet !


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Hm, the same information in "focus", too:
[url] http://focus-fen.net/?id=n125407 [/url]
For the first time after the accident happened I really hope the news is true!!! I mean not the one that the Prosecutor´s office turned down the proposal, that´s bad news Rolling Eyes . But the one that there is a wittness and that the defence hopes to be able to question him after the case enters court, that I mean with the good news.
But to decide to turn down the proposal, that´s a sign for an attitude of the Prosecutor against Maxim, and that´s very, very bad Rolling Eyes !!!
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Looked like a good news to me too.
But still, Admin if you think it is too much and there are official translations, please delete it.
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Quote :
As I understand it, a suspended sentence is a situation in which one does not have to serve time in jail IF he abides by the rules of his probation or other stipulations the court might impose.

This would be a blessing for Maxim.


That would be very good indeed! Smile
So, defense has a witness.THAT would be even better!! sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Maxim in driving accident   Maxim in driving accident - Page 15 Icon_minitimeSat 27 Oct - 21:38

Same in novinite ...
[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86864 [/url]
I think it would have been better if the eye wittness had gone directly to the police and not to the defendant. And I don´t understand the rejection of the claim. Why??? If there´s really someone who saw the other car speeding, to me there´s no reason to reject the claim!
And : An eye wittness who is not allowed to say what he had seen has no value for Maxim Sad ! So let´s hope the Prosecutor will change his mind ...
But, to say this again, the fact that´s there´s an eye wittness, that´s goooooooooood Very Happy Very Happy !!


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Quote :
Same in novinite ...
[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86864 [/url]
I think it would have been better if the eye wittness had gone directly to the police and not to the defendant. And I don´t understand the rejection of the claim. Why??? If there´s really someone who saw the other car speeding, to me there´s no reason to reject the claim!
And : An eye wittness who is not allowed to say what he had seen has no value for Maxim Sad ! So let´s hope the Prosecutor will change his mind ...

Let´s hope everything turns out for the better!!...
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Serena wrote:
Quote :
Same in novinite ...
[url] http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=86864 [/url]
I think it would have been better if the eye wittness had gone directly to the police and not to the defendant. And I don´t understand the rejection of the claim. Why??? If there´s really someone who saw the other car speeding, to me there´s no reason to reject the claim!
And : An eye wittness who is not allowed to say what he had seen has no value for Maxim Sad ! So let´s hope the Prosecutor will change his mind ...

Let´s hope everything turns out for the better!!...

Yes, we shall.

Hope this good news is true.
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I remember that, immediately after the accident, I have read something
about the high speed of the other car......frequently I asked me why I read nothing more......Boh..... confused
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I do hope Maxim´s lawyer makes the best of everything he has in Max, favour!
Let´s hope so! heart2




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O.K., girls: According to this article the eye witness is allowed to make his statement now!
[url] http://www.standartnews.com/en/article.php?d=2007-10-28&article=7239 [/url]
Quote: "Anonymous Witness to Help Staviski Escape Punishment ... The eyewitness is to state in the courtroom that the victim´s car was also responsible for the accident - it had been speeding."
If that´s really true, this would perhaps be the "turning-point" in the whole story! Let´s hope it´s really true poklon and then :jump3: !
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