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Vania wrote!

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Rachel, I understand you perfectly (maybe because my english is more strange than yours ) All you say is true. The origine of all this terrorist act in the present is the fanatism (is that the right spelling?) of some people who think that they became saints sacrifying their own lifes for "justice" it's soooo absurd and stupid!
and the violence can't be stopped, and the terrorism causes new acts of terrorism and so on and so on...
it's sad...

YOU ARE VERY RIGHT!!!!THAT KIND OF FANATICISM IS SIMPLY DISGUSTING!!!


I JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT!!!

But GRACE SAID WE HAD BETTER STOP NOW! OK!!
BUT, I ONLY WANT TO GIVE MY HUMBLE OPINION ABOUT ALL KIND OF FANATICISM = SIMPLY DISGUSTING!!!!!

Bea wrote:

But GRACE SAID WE HAD BETTER STOP NOW! OK!!
BUT, I ONLY WANT TO GIVE MY HUMBLE OPINION ABOUT ALL KIND OF FANATICISM = SIMPLY DISGUSTING!!!!!

Oh no, I definitely didn't mean that we should stop the whole discussion! It's very fascinating!

I only meant that I personally can't start talking about religious fanaticism and what it does to society, because then I will start talking about American politics, and I will never, ever stop.

Thanks, Grace, for correcting me! My english is ... hmmm... not so good

Grace wrote:

Well, I don't like to say "smarter", I like to say "more knowledgable". We don't know these people-- surely some of them are smarter than we are, but equally surely, some of them are not.

Hehe..I see what you mean. Yes, I was reffering to people who study these issues and are more qualified to say this or that. On real basis, facts, documents and so...
"some of them are not "

Grace wrote:

On a more serious note, though, it is one of those subjects that I feel the more I study, the less I know.

Well..sometimes i feel so little and helpless. I am aware that I know so little and that it's not possible to know everything, but sometimes it's frustrating. Sometimes I think about all the myths, legends, books I don't have access too. No solutions, no answers...Ah!

Bea wrote:

Dear Alex!

I have read the Gospel of Judas very attentively, but I admit that some parts are a little difficult for me to understand!
Perhaps my knowledge of religion is not very deep!
But I understand that this Gospel is very different from the others and has a very different meaning!

I admit it scared me a little! I have to read it again very slowly to understand it better!

Well...congratulations my dear Bea!! You managed to read the Gospel. Don't worry, I think certain things are very hard to understand. Also, there can be many interpretations, so this is also confusing. Cause you can understand something but a friend might understand something completely different. I think there is room for plenty of discussions.

I haven't read it yet. I didn't had time. I know about it because I saw a loooot of documentaries. After it was discovered and made public everybody was crazy...showing, reading, explaining...heheh

Grace wrote:

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of some people who think that they became saints sacrifying their own lifes for "justice" it's soooo absurd and stupid!
and the violence can't be stopped, and the terrorism causes new acts of terrorism and so on and so on...
it's sad...

It's all horrible, and there's no easy end to it. But I better stop there or I'll start talking politics and then I'll never stop.

Ohh..this is another issue. Still a religious one but this is very, very controversial. Fundamentalism has deep roots but in my opinion they didn't understood/interpreted very well some facts. And things got a bit exagerated. Very exagerated. I can try to understand the society and to loose my preducises towards their ways of life but I can never understand a death, a crime. You shouldn't do that under any circumstances...where is the love, the forgivness, the hope...Everything God/Allah is about.
We choose parts from it and we apply them but we completely forget the major concept of all this.

Ehhh...Grace...politics. An endless subject with infinit areas and problems. politics and religion. Ohhh...tough discussion. But I like it (although I never have enough arguments..)

And ALEX WROTE!!

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Ehhh...Grace...politics. An endless subject with infinit areas and problems. politics and religion. Ohhh...tough discussion. But I like it (although I never have enough arguments

AS A MATTER OF FACT , I LIKE IT TOO!!!!!!





ANd I read the GOSPEL OF JUDAS TOO!!!
Well, it didn't come as a surprise to me! I had already heard about it!
As a matter of fact there is a book by SIMON MAWER " THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS" that I think is more or less based in the Gospel we are talking abou!t!

You must think that I am a kind of blue stocking :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: [ I think this is the right expression], but I am not believe me!!!

I JUST LIKE TO READ!!! AND KNOWLEGDE IS BLISS!!!!!!

Maria wrote:

You must think that I am a kind of blue stocking :study: :study: :study: :study: :study: [ I think this is the right expression], but I am not believe me!!!

I JUST LIKE TO READ!!! AND KNOWLEGDE IS BLISS!!!!!!

Ohh...God no!!!
I like to read...I don't read as much as I would want..but I like to read a lot.
I have no idea what "blue stocking" means but I guarantee you, what you said (reading a lot) it's actually a compliment.
I admire people who read. I admire you a lot. :study:

Besos para ti, Maria

Me too, I like reading!
I live in lodgings (if that's the word) here in Plovdiv, I mean I don't live with my parents which are in my home town, and for few months (5-6) I didn't had a TV and I read so many books :study: :study: as never.
But now I got a TV and .... suddenly I don't have this time to read, the TV distracts me
But despite the TV, it took me only three or four days to read Angels and Demons and thrre days - for The Da Vinci Code :study:

I have read the Gospel of Judas too!
And I find it rather disturbing! , because it makes us look at the whole issue in a new light!
And that is very disturbing to many people! And perhaps a bit scary!!

How ever, the CHURCH as an institution, is aware of them and says that people can buy them if they wanT to!
OK!! That´´s very nice of them! But they simply don´´t want to discuss them and say that they were anti Christian propaganda!

Dear Maria!

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!!! KNOWLEDGE IS BLISS!!!

Ignorance is not acceptable anymore!!!

Girls,
I am going to watch Da Vinci Code this evening with a bunch of friends!
But I intend to wait for the other girls whose countries the premiere is on Friday to see it and then tell what I think about it!!!

As far as I am concerned, we can go on talking about religion,here!!
I am not, in the least offended!!!

Yesterday evening, one of the portuguese state channels, showed a program about the the book and the sources Dan Brown used to write it!!
It was very interesting! It was by an american or english channel that investigated it all!
And, although some of the facts maybe true, the people in the program, the ones who investigate it, said that part of it is indeed a great speculation!!
Sooo, the discussion is on!!!!

Quote BEA!

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As far as I am concerned, we can go on talking about religion,here!!
I am not, in the least offended!!!

I am not offended either! I find the discussion very interesting!

AS a matter of fact I think I hadn't find a talk about religion so interesting for ages!

Bea wrote:

Girls,
I am going to watch Da Vinci Code this evening with a bunch of friends!
But I intend to wait for the other girls whose countries the premiere is on Friday to see it and then tell what I think about it!!!

As far as I am concerned, we can go on talking about religion,here!!
I am not, in the least offended!!!

Dear Bea, for me it's OK - you can comment it if you want, they show it nowin Bulgaria, but I will go to watch it next week, because tonight I'm busy and in the weekend I won't be here in the town. Maybe monday I'll watch it. just I have to organize with my friends. I don't like to go at cinema alone - I must comment the movie with someone

And about religion - yes, we can continue discussing it. It's so interesting.

BEIJOS A TODAS! (is that correct )

Hey guys,Hi!
I am back.I had problems with my account i had forgotten my password, but now everything is ok...
Nice topic i love books.At the moment i am reading some of the Summerset's stories.I like him(his fiction) very much.I am also reading "Angels and Demons"(in original...so it is little difficult).Dan Brown's books are wonderful

Morgana wrote:

Hey guys,Hi!
I am back.I had problems with my account i had forgotten my password, but now everything is ok...
Nice topic i love books.At the moment i am reading some of the Summerset's stories.I like him(his fiction) very much.I am also reading "Angels and Demons"(in original...so it is little difficult).Dan Brown's books are wonderful

Welcome back, Morgana!
You read Angels and Demons in original wooonderful! I hope you would like to discuss it here when you finish it We have began verry interesting discussion about Dan Brown's books and about the religion, you can see!

Hugsss!

AM I GOING CRAZY!!!
I'M SURE THAT 2 MINUTES BEFORE THERE WAS A MESSAGE FROM ALEX AND NOW IT DISAPPEARED OR I HAVE HALLUCINATIONS!

I WANTED TO REPLY HER AND SOMETHING HAPPENED AND THE MESSAGE DISAPPEARED!

OHHHHH!!!!! DEARS!!!

I didn´t watch the Da Vinci Code after all!!!

My friend , Ricardo did not buy the tickets in time! And it was sold out! and it was too late to try another cinema, so we watched
Mission Impossible!!!

Sooo, I won´t be able to give my opiniom any
way!!!

Wow ! I have seen the film this afternoon ! It is very good in my opinion ! I read the book just once, one year ago, so I don't remember all the details, but I think that all is respected in the film.

I saw it in original version, and it was better I think because they speak sometimes in English, sometimes in French...
I can't tell you more because everybody don't see it, but I can just tell you that actors are very good, especially Audrey Tautou, and the music is great !!!

A last thing... It is very funny because I know the Louvre very well (I go to the museum twice or three times in a week) and I recognize the paintings, the rooms... And at the end, we see Langdon who walks, and I take the same way every day !

Bea wrote!

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I didn´t watch the Da Vinci Code after all!!!

My friend , Ricardo did not buy the tickets in time! And it was sold out! and it was too late to try another cinema, so we watched
Mission Impossible!!!

Sooo, I won´t be able to give my opiniom any
way!!!

DEAR BEA! :<33:

I am sorry!!! But never mind!!!
YOU have plenty of time to watch it and talk about it!!

I haven't watched it yet!

Marina wrote!

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Wow ! I have seen the film this afternoon ! It is very good in my opinion ! I read the book just once, one year ago, so I don't remember all the details, but I think that all is respected in the film.

Marina,
Thanks for sharing these details with us!

WEll.., when I do watch it...at least I know it won't be a waste of time!

And, as I have read the book a year ago too,perhaps it will be more interesting because I really do not remember all the details!!

Marina wrote:

A last thing... It is very funny because I know the Louvre very well (I go to the museum twice or three times in a week) and I recognize the paintings, the rooms... And at the end, we see Langdon who walks, and I take the same way every day !

Wow, Marina - two or three times in a week I read that Jacques Chirac has permitted to the director to film the movie in the Louvre itself, so it's not a decor, but the real Louvre! I can't wait to watch it, today I can't go, maybe next week!
Thanks for sharing your opinion :<33:

Vania wrote:

Wow, Marina - two or three times in a week

Yes, my school is in one of the wings of the Louvre, and as I study art history :study: , we have some classes in the museum, in front of the paintings, just where Jacques Saunière died... (it is a little bit frightening no ? )

Vania wrote:

I read that Jacques Chirac has permitted to the director to film the movie in the Louvre itself, so it's not a decor, but the real Louvre! I can't wait to watch it, today I can't go, maybe next week!
Thanks for sharing your opinion :<33:

No, it isn't a decor ! Only when there is blood on the floor, they weren't allowed to put blood in the museum !
And the scenes in the yard of the Louvre, near the pyramide... It was great ! I'm sure you will love it !

Marina wrote!

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No, it isn't a decor ! Only when there is blood on the floor, they weren't allowed to put blood in the museum !
And the scenes in the yard of the Louvre, near the pyramide... It was great ! I'm sure you will love it ![/

WOWWWW!!!!

I AM SURE, I AM GOING TO LOVE IT , TOO!!

Quoting Marina!

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Wow ! I have seen the film this afternoon ! It is very good in my opinion ! I read the book just once, one year ago, so I don't remember all the details, but I think that all is respected in the film.

Thank you for sharing your impressions with us!
So, It seems it is worth while to watch iT!!!


DEAR BEA!
I AM SORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED! BUT , YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME STILL!!!!