Europeans 2008

Vania, I can´t understand at all why Brian is in second place! He skated really bad today , but judges did not seem to see this ! He got the bonus of an European champ, and IMO that´s not o.k. at all!!! IMO Kristoffer Berntsson was not much worser than Brian was today !!!

I can't uderstand that too, girls!
Why is Brian before Steph?? Of course Steph didn't skate his best , but he was definitely better than Brian!!! Brian made too much mistakes! Where were looking the judges at?
What about Tomas...Really great skating!

Aliona and Robin during their short program yesterday:

Men - Free Skating - Starting Order

StN. Name Nat. Current Rank Points

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Josip GLUHAK CRO 25 44.52
2 Paolo BACCHINI ITA 20 50.90
3 Moris PFEIFHOFER SUI 23 49.84
4 Vitali SAZONETS UKR 22 50.31
5 Ruben BLOMMAERT BEL 24 47.38
6 Manuel KOLL AUT 19 51.12
7 Peter LIEBERS GER 21 50.47

Warm-Up Group 2
8 Alexandr KAZAKOV BLR 18 51.16
9 Clemens BRUMMER GER 17 51.26
10 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 16 51.94
11 Michal BREZINA CZE 14 54.13
12 Konstantin TUPIKOV POL 15 52.08
13 Karel ZELENKA ITA 13 56.29

Warm-Up Group 3
14 Gregor URBAS SLO 7 63.43
15 Andrei LUTAI RUS 9 63.04
16 Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE 8 63.40
17 Alban PREAUBERT FRA 10 60.54
18 Yannick PONSERO FRA 11 59.28
19 Sergei DAVYDOV BLR 12 58.63

Warm-Up Group 4
20 Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL 4 66.33
21 Tomas VERNER CZE 1 79.03
22 Kristoffer BERNTSSON SWE 5 65.62
23 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 3 71.78
24 Sergei VORONOV RUS 6 64.26
25 Brian JOUBERT FRA 2 75.25

And... the best starting number has ...: Brian Joubert...

Pairs - Final Result

FPl. Name Nat. Points SP FS
1 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY GER 202.39 1 1
2 Maria MUKHORTOVA / Maxim TRANKOV RUS 169.41 2 2
3 Yuko KAWAGUCHI / Alexander SMIRNOV RUS 167.25 4 3
4 Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Stanislav MOROZOV UKR 163.43 3 4
5 Arina USHAKOVA / Sergei KAREV RUS 130.34 5 6
6 Stacey KEMP / David KING GBR 129.13 7 5
7 Mari VARTMANN / Florian JUST GER 119.86 6 8
8 Melodie CHATAIGNER / Medhi BOUZZINE FRA 116.48 8 7
9 Dominika PIATKOWSKA / Dmitri KHROMIN POL 112.96 9 10
10 Marika ZANFORLIN / Federico DEGLI ESPOSTI ITA 112.11 10 9
11 Laura MAGITTERI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA 109.88 11 11
12 Ekaterina SOSINOVA / Fedor SOKOLOV ISR 104.40 12 13
13 Ekaterina KOSTENKO / Roman TALAN UKR 103.06 13 12
14 Amy IRELAND / Michael BAHORIC CRO 78.44 14 15
15 Ariel Fay GAGNON / Chad TSAGRIS GRE 72.07 15 14

Quote :

1 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY GER 202.39 1 1

They are THE BEST!!!

Quote :

2 Maria MUKHORTOVA / Maxim TRANKOV RUS 169.41 2 2
3 Yuko KAWAGUCHI / Alexander SMIRNOV RUS 167.25 4 3

BRAVO!!!

First - congrats to Aliona and Robin for their title!

And I've just seen Ina and Juri's OD: Good work, guys!! Although they made mistakes, I liked their performance - I've sen it once and I think this time it was better, not perfect though... But anyway - congrats for them - they're going to be between the first 24 couples and will skate their Free Good luck!

Yeh yeh yeh!
They danced great!! I liked their OD very much, too!
Good luck for our little heroes!

Inochka and Ura are so cute, so nice!!! I love them!!! Good luck in FD tomorrow!!!

Ice Dancing - Original Dance - Folk-Country Dance - Result Details

1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 62.72
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 61.90
3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 60.03
4 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 58.79
5 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 58.54
6 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 56.97
7 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 54.07
8 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 53.52
9 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 53.31
10 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 52.07
11 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 51.29
12 Anna ZADOROZHNIUK / Sergei VERBILLO UKR 50.86
13 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 49.69
14 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 47.92
15 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER 47.18
16 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE 45.92
17 Barbora SILNA / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT 44.79
18 Phillipa TOWLER-GREEN / Phillip POOLE GBR 42.80
19 Joanna BUDNER / Jan MOSCICKI POL 42.30
20 Krisztina BARTA / Adam TOTH HUN 40.41
21 Leonie KRAIL / Oscar PETER SUI 40.13
22 Ksenia SHMIRINA / Egor MAISTROV BLR 35.36
23 Ina DEMIREVA / Juri KURAKIN BUL 34.60
24 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST 32.08
25 Nadine AHMED / Bruce PORTER AZE 27.74

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Ice Dancing - Result after OD

1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 103.97 1 1
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 102.15 2 2
3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 97.40 3 3
4 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 95.66 4 4 Gooooo!
5 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 92.09 6 5 Gooooo toooooo!
6 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 91.55 5 6
7 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 86.43 7 9
8 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 85.09 8 10
9 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 85.04 10 7
10 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 83.67 11 8
11 Anna ZADOROZHNIUK / Sergei VERBILLO UKR 82.14 9 12
12 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 80.10 14 11
13 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 78.87 12 13
14 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 76.82 13 14
15 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER 73.07 16 15
16 Barbora SILNA / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT 71.23 15 17
17 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE 70.80 18 16
18 Phillipa TOWLER-GREEN / Phillip POOLE GBR 67.07 19 18
19 Joanna BUDNER / Jan MOSCICKI POL 64.77 20 19
20 Leonie KRAIL / Oscar PETER SUI 61.63 21 21
21 Krisztina BARTA / Adam TOTH HUN 61.58 22 20
22 Ksenia SHMIRINA / Egor MAISTROV BLR 55.61 23 22
23 Ina DEMIREVA / Juri KURAKIN BUL 51.91 24 23
24 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST 47.34 25 24
25 Nadine AHMED / Bruce PORTER AZE 42.89 26 25
WD Anastasia GREBENKINA / Vazgen AZROJAN ARM 17

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Ice Dancing - Free Dance - Starting Order

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Krisztina BARTA / Adam TOTH HUN 21 61.58
2 Ina DEMIREVA / Juri KURAKIN BUL 23 51.91
3 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST 24 47.34
4 Ksenia SHMIRINA / Egor MAISTROV BLR 22 55.61

Warm-Up Group 2
5 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE 17 70.80
6 Leonie KRAIL / Oscar PETER SUI 20 61.63
7 Barbora SILNA / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT 16 71.23
8 Joanna BUDNER / Jan MOSCICKI POL 19 64.77
9 Phillipa TOWLER-GREEN / Phillip POOLE GBR 18 67.07

Warm-Up Group 3
10 Anna ZADOROZHNIUK / Sergei VERBILLO UKR 11 82.14
11 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 14 76.82
12 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER 15 73.07
13 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 12 80.10
14 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 13 78.87

Warm-Up Group 4
15 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 8 85.09
16 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 7 86.43
17 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 9 85.04
18 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 10 83.67
19 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 6 91.55

Warm-Up Group 5
20 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 5 92.09
21 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 1 103.97
22 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 3 97.40
23 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 2 102.15
24 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 4 95.66

Aliona and Robin during their golden LP skating yesterday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkTIi1jab0

Petra wrote:

Men - Short Program - Result Details

1 Tomas VERNER CZE 79.03
2 Brian JOUBERT FRA 75.25
3 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 71.78

Congratulations to Tomas Verner!!! I hope he will be first after the long programm, too!!!

It has really become true!!!

Congratulations to Tomas Verner!!! He´s European Champion 2008!!!

And Stephane is second, in front of Brian!!!

Men - Final Result

1 Tomas VERNER CZE 232.67 1 1
2 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 225.24 3 2
3 Brian JOUBERT FRA 219.45 2 4
4 Sergei VORONOV RUS 210.13 6 3
5 Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL 199.57 4 5
6 Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE 184.94 8 6
7 Kristoffer BERNTSSON SWE 182.45 5 10
8 Andrei LUTAI RUS 180.46 9 9
9 Sergei DAVYDOV BLR 179.90 12 7
10 Alban PREAUBERT FRA 178.63 10 8
11 Gregor URBAS SLO 176.57 7 13
12 Yannick PONSERO FRA 172.43 11 12
13 Peter LIEBERS GER 165.14 21 11
14 Clemens BRUMMER GER 163.81 17 14
15 Karel ZELENKA ITA 161.47 13 16
16 Michal BREZINA CZE 160.37 14 15
17 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 154.10 16 17
18 Alexandr KAZAKOV BLR 151.98 18 18
19 Paolo BACCHINI ITA 151.39 20 19
20 Vitali SAZONETS UKR 150.78 22 20
21 Konstantin TUPIKOV POL 149.80 15 21
22 Moris PFEIFHOFER SUI 144.32 23 22
23 Manuel KOLL AUT 132.02 19 23
24 Josip GLUHAK CRO 118.37 28 24
25 Ruben BLOMMAERT BEL 111.34 24 25
26 Elliot HILTON GBR FNR 25
27 Danil PRIVALOV AZE FNR 26
28 Mikko MINKKINEN FIN FNR 27
29 Alper UCAR TUR FNR 29
30 Maxim SHIPOV ISR FNR 30
31 Naiden BORICHEV BUL FNR 31
32 Luka CADEZ SLO FNR 32
33 Igor MACYPURA SVK FNR 33
34 Tigran VARDANJAN HUN FNR 34
35 Zoltan KELEMEN ROU FNR 35

Petra wrote:

I hope MARI and me are not the only once interested in Europeans 2008

Nooo, no....me? just a bit late
Catching-up now. Soon I'll read the newest posts
I could say sooo many things...

Okaaaay

Many things to tell....

CONGRATULATIONS TOMAS!!!! :stari:I absolutely think he deserves the gold this time!!! His LP is gorgeous!!
...and I'm also very happy for him..tough sad for Brian We know he can do more.....he can!! But...something went wrong..misfortune...nervousness...illness...who knows...
Anyway, the SP is fabulous!! Love the music of Sebastian Damiani!! And Brian will make it better

My ideal podium would have been:
1. Brian
2. Tomas
3. Stephane

But...okay, Tomas first is great!! but Brian third..no
- tough it's the way it should be.

As for our commentators I like those from our national channel but the guy from Eurosport is absolutely horrifing. He doesn't even speak correctly...literally...he speaks like one would, in a pub..and with a lack of respect that is incredible Anyway, the girls is quite ok now. And she spoke quite beautifully about Ina
They both acknowledged Ina and Iuri level and that it's their first biig competition & mentioned that she's Albenka's sister and that she need to work hard if she want to realize what her sister did.
The guy mentioned Albena . He said he met her in Sofia and saw how dedicated was she in her work at the federation. He said nice words about her

And Ina& Iuri were sooo cute...and Ina was very sweet when waiting for her marks I do hope she has the same energy & determination as Albenka!! It would be great!!

Okay....I've noticed Segei Voronov and Clemens Brummer
There are many, many new skaters. Brian, Tomas and Stephane are now the 'older' generation .
And Kevin used X-otica...it's was just great

Maria, the boy from Spain, Javier did veeeery well. I think so!! You should be proud of him

I feel a bit bad for Alban and Sergei Davydov (our commentator said some people call him a 'pocket skater' but he is trully small...so petite : smile: cute )....

As for the OD's......a well-deserved place for Isa & Oli
I hope they win the FD and gold also!!!

I fell in love with Pernelle and Mathieu's program!! I think it's a fabulous routine!! And they performed it well also!! Greaaaaat!!

I don't like Oksana and Maxim's OD. I usually like their routines..last year's FD was great too. But this OD seems chaotic to me...and too sloppy. Maybe I'm wrong..but they seem to forget about the grace of a dance, the passion of it or the elegance of it in favor of speed.

And Nathalie and Fabian were gorgeous!! I love the fan and it takesc ourage to use it and focus on it while you have so many hard elements to perform. Plus they had, especially Nathalie, a great, great attitude& good relation with the music. I think they should have received higher scores for presentation. I liked Federica and Massimo a loooot. But Nathalie and Fabian deserved more at the artistic part....
Sinead and John, Jana and Sergei

Pairs
Well..no doubt here

Nice to see you again!! Really!!

Delobel and Schoenfelder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-LbJRDGCjY

Khokhlova and Novitzki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nWQRolgNME

Zadorozhniuk and Verbilio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jRvy_fVXE

Kerr and Kerr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUAacUNAC28

Scali and Faiella

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km2eMggbubQ

Pechalat and Bouzarat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3LWR9DXhWI

Cappellini and Lannote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10hSVXy5SOg

Zaretski and Zaretski

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdLFbj9Yhao

Domnina and Shabalin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3VOnM2HGYc

Ina and Yuri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMkTIi1jab0

Fraser and Likanin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyNEP7lv-iU

Hajkova and Vinokur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQB6Iz0wCo

Carron and Jost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8A2BkDUYBE

Copely and Stagniunas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksei0PyXRRA


Alexandra is so nice to have you back

Wow, Alex!!! I'm glad to "see" you heeeere

alexandra wrote:

My ideal podium would have been:
1. Brian
2. Tomas
3. Stephane

Eurosport didn't show the LP (stupid football ), at least not live. I'm very curious to see it, before to comment anything. But... I wanted Steph to be first Tomas's SP was brilliant and I'm pretty sure he deserves the gold if he skated like this yesterday.

alexandra wrote:

As for our commentators I like those from our national channel but the guy from Eurosport is absolutely horrifing.

Our Eurosport commentators too. I'm sorry to say that, because I used to like Vitomir, and the other commentator was a figure skater (lady). I'm very disapointed for them. First, they didn't stop talk all the time during the performances of the skaters even of Ina and Yuri! We weren't even able to hear the music! Second the girl (although a figure skater) obviously saw many of the skaters's performances for the first time - she was very surprised when Nathalie get out her fan and they both started comment that maybe someday the skaters will take with them on the ice lanterns to shine into judges' eyes ( ) or knives to revenge them. I know they were just joking, but "thanks" to these silly comments I can't watch Nath&Fab carefully. Not to mention they were discussing the beauty and the bodies of the girls. Anyway....

alexandra wrote:

And Ina& Iuri were sooo cute...and Ina was very sweet when waiting for her marks I do hope she has the same energy & determination as Albenka!! It would be great!!

Oh, Alex, I'm glad you liked them, that you all you liked them. Me too They are so cute and look very good on the ice together, as a couple.

Uh... I have to go now, see you later

Petra wrote:

1 Tomas VERNER CZE 232.67 1 1
2 Stephane LAMBIEL SUI 225.24 3 2
3 Brian JOUBERT FRA 219.45 2 4

Well... I'm a bit sad for Brian, but he deserves this 3rd place, Tomas deserves to be European champion, and Stéphane deserves to be 2nd, so it's OK.
French TV interviewed them, and Tomas was so funny ! Our commentator said "So Tomas, you did it !", and Tomas answered : "Yes I did it !", he was really happy and excited , it was pleasant to see.
Stéphane was OK with his 2nd place, he said that Tomas was better than him.
And Brian said that he did his best, but it was very hard with all the health problems he had since November (a few weeks ago, he had a gastroenteritis). But he said that he wants to keep his title at Worlds !!!

I'm very happy for Tomas! And disappointed for Brian I just loove his sp! But I think they all deserve their places,so I'm happy at least because everything is fair
As for the OD,I am happy that Isa and Olivier are at the first place,I hope the'll keep it after the FD I liked Nathalie and Fabian's OD very much! Their idea with the fan still anmires me!

I have a question to the ice dancing competition yesterday. You know I don´t speak Bulgarian, but as Ina was sitting in the kiss and cry corner after the OD, I think I understood that she was sending some greetings to "Bena i Max" (=Albena and Maxim)... Did I understand right???

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Ladies - Result after Short Program

1 Carolina KOSTNER ITA 59.31 1
2 Kiira KORPI FIN 58.60 2
3 Laura LEPISTO FIN 56.96 3
4 Sarah MEIER SUI 56.44 4 (So sorry for the mistake!)
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 55.54 5
6 Valentina MARCHEI ITA 53.69 6
7 Jenna McCORKELL GBR 53.68 7
8 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 53.43 8
9 Annette DYTRT GER 51.99 9
10 Ksenia DORONINA RUS 50.91 10
11 Tugba KARADEMIR TUR 50.28 11
12 Jenni VAHAMAA FIN 47.05 12
13 Stefania BERTON ITA 46.84 13
14 Nella SIMAOVA CZE 45.64 14
15 Karen VENHUIZEN NED 45.53 15
16 Viktoria HELGESSON SWE 44.07 16
17 Tamar KATZ ISR 43.77 17
18 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP 43.26 18
19 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 42.58 19
20 Anna JURKIEWICZ POL 42.55 20
21 Olga IKONNIKOVA EST 40.71 21
22 Katherine HADFORD HUN 39.46 22
23 Roxana LUCA ROU 39.29 23
24 Viviane KAESER SUI 39.06 24
25 Gwendoline DIDIER FRA 37.91 25
26 Julia SHEREMET BLR 37.89 26
27 Bettina HEIM SUI 36.73 27
28 Ekaterina PROYDA UKR 35.85 28
29 Jacqueline BELENYESIOVA SVK 34.08 29
30 Erle HARSTAD NOR 33.51 30
31 Barbara KLERK BEL 32.99 31
32 Denise KOEGL AUT 32.28 32
33 Sonia RADEVA BUL 31.66 33
34 Stasia RAGE LAT 30.94 34
35 Teodora POSTIC SLO 30.34 35
36 Ksenia JASTSENJSKI SRB 30.30 36
37 Merovee EPHREM MON 28.34 37
38 Maria-Elena PAPASOTIRIOU GRE 25.92 38
39 Beatrice ROZINSKAITE LTU 24.07 39
40 Maria DIKANOVIC CRO 23.88 40

Tomas Verner during his LP yesterday:

Petra wrote:

I have a question to the ice dancing competition yesterday. You know I don´t speak Bulgarian, but as Ina was sitting in the kiss and cry corner after the OD, I think I understood that she was sending some greetings to "Bena i Max" (=Albena and Maxim)... Did I understand right???

I don't understand bulgarian too but I am sure they sent kisses to Albena and Max in the K and C after the CD and OD...Ina cleary said "MAX"

aline wrote:

Petra wrote:

I have a question to the ice dancing competition yesterday. You know I don´t speak Bulgarian, but as Ina was sitting in the kiss and cry corner after the OD, I think I understood that she was sending some greetings to "Bena i Max" (=Albena and Maxim)... Did I understand right???

I don't understand bulgarian too but I am sure they sent kisses to Albena and Max in the K and C after the CD and OD...Ina cleary said "MAX"

Yes, you're right And they did it after the CD and after the OD. Unfortunately, we can't see them in the Free, but I hope Ina will be OK very soon. Get well, Inche!!!

I watched Steph's free - it was woooonderful!!! Maybe Tomas skated better than him, but I'm more impressed from Steph's performance - he's more emotional, more.. I don't know ...

As for the other ice dance couples - am I the only one who thinks that Yana and Sergey are the better Russian couple ? Their gipsy dance was just fabulous!
I want so much that Fede and Massimo and Sinead&John win a medal, but for now, it's absolutely impossible At least, I hope we'll see them in the gala