2007 World Figure Skating Championships

I really hope that the judging will be honest,not like at the euros. But even if it is like in Warsaw,but A&M's skating will be brilliant-I don't believe that the situation can be like at the euros........oh,my thinks are so confused now

I don't know....with everything that has happened it is very hard to believe the judges will do their job properly....and about the rumours,yes all of them are top couples,but if this year they give the tittle to the canadians it won't be fair at all- they have probably the weakest FD from all the top couples, even from K/N and F/S

Actually, we can not predict anything. Noone is insured against mistakes. Even having a judge doesn't tell anything. Even rumours and "someone's plans" (I mean plans of some federations like american and russian especially) can't promise something for sure for their athletes. For example, the leaders who had mistakes this year already: Maxim Shabalin, he is not insured against having a fall again.. and Albena & Maxim also.. unfortunately. Especially I'm afraid about the OD. They were not perfect in Tango both at the GPF and Europeans. So I'm afraid. On the other part, Isabelle & Olivier are not always perfect as well. So you see, everyone had mistakes and everyone can make them again. As for Belbin & Agosto and Marie-France and Patch, I don't want to say anything before the 4 continents. It's going to be an interesting competition. I really hope to see both Albena & Maxim and Isabelle & Olivier at the podium in Tokyo. And, of course, I hope not for a bronze but.. we will see. God help!

lanadd wrote:

I don't know....with everything that has happened it is very hard to believe the judges will do their job properly....and about the rumours,yes all of them are top couples,but if this year they give the tittle to the canadians it won't be fair at all- they have probably the weakest FD from all the top couples, even from K/N and F/S

I agree.The canadians' FD is nice,but it isn't brilliant and exciting,IMHO.I like the canadians,they are very cute ,but I don't think they will be the first :|

*MAGic diable* wrote:

Actually, we can not predict anything. Noone is insured against mistakes. Even having a judge doesn't tell anything. Even rumours and "someone's plans" (I mean plans of some federations like american and russian especially) can't promise something for sure for their athletes. For example, the leaders who had mistakes this year already: Maxim Shabalin, he is not insured against having a fall again.. and Albena & Maxim also.. unfortunately. Especially I'm afraid about the OD. They were not perfect in Tango both at the GPF and Europeans. So I'm afraid. On the other part, Isabelle & Olivier are not always perfect as well. So you see, everyone had mistakes and everyone can make them again. As for Belbin & Agosto and Marie-France and Patch, I don't want to say anything before the 4 continents. It's going to be an interesting competition. I really hope to see both Albena & Maxim and Isabelle & Olivier at the podium in Tokyo. And, of course, I hope not for a bronze but.. we will see. God help!

Оh Lera, i hope you are right about the plans.....BTW does Albena&Max know about this rumours??Is he so sad because of that?
And yes,nobody is insured from mistakes, but these team are so well trained and usually the mistakes they made are more because of a psycological pressure,and this pressure is more for a couple who knows that judges are against them, and a lot less in the opposite case.
You're right about the OD...i don't know what happened...at SA and TEB they were great then suddenly ...aren't they training it enough?I heard that they ll have an other show at 15 February and as i am happy for them, i think that it would be better to take more time for training before the WC???

here is the link for ESPN with their FD http://www.mediafire.com/?eqznqmjtwzd

I still believe in justice.

I still believe in justice too! But, sometimes I get sceptical!

Maria wrote:

I still believe in justice too! But, sometimes I get sceptical!

And i don't believe it at all anymore...i think the only think which could save A&M at the WC will be an existing and obvious mistakes from some of the others couples(like falls), which doesn't happen in ce dancing very often,especially if the others know they have the support of the judges,and they know they just have to skate clean and even very slow like G/G at the OG

OHHH! YOU HAVE A POINT, LANADD!
I am sooo sad about all this...
I still haven't the guts to say anything about the results!

I DO believe in all theses rumors I'am sure they gave the title to Isa & Oli just because they're not going to have anything at worlds!

And look at B&A's marks in 4 continents! They made mistakes but are 1st. I can't stand Marie & Patch's FD this season BUT in the OD I think they're better than BA

Actually, D/L and B/A made about the same mistake in their OD-- D/L's was just harder to see. Still there though (foot down during a twizzle and incomplete rotations, which made them get out of unison). I wonder if maybe because B/A's happened in the middle of their sequence, and they got back in unison, whereas D/L's was at the end and so they didn't have time to get back in unison, might have had something to do with it. Also D/L had an error on a transition. And I also think that D/L have an unbalanced workload in their diagonal steps-- she's doing a lot more than he is, so maybe that resulted in a lower level or even lower PCS for transitions.

Or it could just be politics. Who knows.

I don't know what to think about Worlds yet. I've heard so many conflicting rumours that I think I would go crazy trying to figure them out. And even when I think things are going to go very very badly for Albena and Maxim and even Isabelle and Olivier, I remember that that is also what I thought going into Worlds last year-- and look how that turned out!

The Belbin-Agosto's and Dubreule-Lausone's skating at the 4 continents isn't good .Their mistakes in the OD are unusual for tem,but...if their skatig at the worlds is the same,I don't know who will be at the podium

rosee wrote:

I DO believe in all theses rumors I'am sure they gave the title to Isa & Oli just because they're not going to have anything at worlds!

And look at B&A's marks in 4 continents! They made mistakes but are 1st. I can't stand Marie & Patch's FD this season BUT in the OD I think they're better than BA

I am not a fan of B/A neither, but IMHO their OD was better then D/L,they had only one mistake,which was due mostly on bad luck, but D/L had three-one on the sls,one in the twizzles(the usual one ) and one in the transitions...
I don't know about how trueful the rumours are going to be, i know only 1 thing Albena and Max with gold medals!! Even if everybody skates clean, they deserve it most...and if D/L and B/A skate with this kind of mistakes,they don't have to be on the podium at all

I don't want D/L or B/A on the podium at Worlds either, but it's probably not quite fair to judge the chances of their being on the podium in Tokyo by their performances at 4CC. The conditions are very difficult where they're competing-- the altitude is extremely high-- and that affects the way a lot of people skate.

Then again, maybe they're just skating badly.

I haven't said that i don't want them on the podium, but i don't want them on the top of the podium,even if everybody skates clean....
Yes we can't make conclusions from 4CC, but there have been a lot of competitions so far for D/L, and i still haven't seen decent twizzles from them

Oh, well, no, of course. They never have good twizzles. That is quite certain whether they're skating at the top of a mountain or the bottom of the ocean. I definitely meant things more like the footwork and transition errors.

Grace wrote:

Oh, well, no, of course. They never have good twizzles. That is quite certain whether they're skating at the top of a mountain or the bottom of the ocean. I definitely meant things more like the footwork and transition errors.

yes, the stumble was accidental, can be due to many reasons....

WELL, I happened to watch F. Continents. Can you imagine that Eurosport actually showed it??????
I don't like those couples you are talkig about very much, but B\ A are better...

hello

I know I don't post here very often ( actualy it's my second post) but I read everything. And I know it's not the right section, but it's the highest probability that you'll read this post here.

I've just read today a post from DASHA in "More about us" section and got terribly worried. It's about Lyra and herself.Please, read it. Maybe we can do someting to help her? Anyone of you know her better or personaly?

You probably know this already, but in this article: http://topsport.ibox.bg/news/id_1255586340 (it's in bulgarian only but read on for the gist of it), Maxim says that they expected bad results at europeans before they even started the competition BUT they are expecting much better results at worlds. He goes on to say, "The world championship is a different kind of competition. Anything can change. I think the russians wouldn't make it to the podium. But for us it would be easier."

So that sounds pretty optimistic, and coming from Maxim himself, I am very tempted to believe it

i-love-skating wrote:

You probably know this already, but in this article: http://topsport.ibox.bg/news/id_1255586340 (it's in bulgarian only but read on for the gist of it), Maxim says that they expected bad results at europeans before they even started the competition BUT they are expecting much better results at worlds. He goes on to say, "The world championship is a different kind of competition. Anything can change. I think the russians wouldn't make it to the podium. But for us it would be easier."

So that sounds pretty optimistic, and coming from Maxim himself, I am very tempted to believe it

Yes, but that was right after the end of Europeans, since then with each interview they are giving they become more and more pesimistic. Albena said in a tv show that the chances to win the world tittle are 1:100000...And the change in their mood-from optimistic to very pessimistic-probably is due to the rumours which unfortunately may be quite true
P.S. Does anybody knows how can i buy tickets for the WC?? It seems like mission impossible

Lanadd wrote!

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Albena said in a tv show that the chances to win the world tittle are 1:100000...And the change in their mood-from optimistic to very pessimistic-probably is due to the rumours which unfortunately may be quite true

OMG!! This is so sad! And so upsetting!!!
This sport is always spoiled by the rumours and corruption...

Bea wrote:

Lanadd wrote!

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Albena said in a tv show that the chances to win the world tittle are 1:100000...And the change in their mood-from optimistic to very pessimistic-probably is due to the rumours which unfortunately may be quite true

OMG!! This is so sad! And so upsetting!!!
This sport is always spoiled by the rumours and corruption...

Well,she also explained, they think this way, because they have to be prepared for the worse otherwise the disappointment will be very hard for them. So lets hope this is the only reason they are talking like that

I still hope for the best! (am incorrigible optimist, I know ) But ultimately, it doesn't matter what marks the judges give them - in the end of the day, everybody can tell they skate like World Champs! (and the applause from the audience more than proves that; I watched the medal ceremony at europeans and the eurosport commentator said, "there's gonna be a roar now, just listen" when Albi & Max came out on the ice and then he also said "the Bulgarians are the favourite with the crowd wherever they go, loved everywhere" which is so true!!)

Of course, it will be that much better if they do get gold medals, but I'm just saying we should support them no matter what.